I bought a Harman Kardon 730 that was in a pawn shop window in the early 2ooo’s for $80. I ripped everything out except for the twin-powered amp section. I re-capped it and did some rewiring. It’s coupled with newer upstream components and I enjoy it.
What's up with the price of Vintage equipment?
The reason I am asking is, I sold stereo equipment in the 1970's and 1980's and some of the stuff I see selling for big bucks today were not well thought of during the 70's and 80's and lots of it sounded pretty mediocre (think Class D amps with amazingly low specs like .00007% distortion or other such nonsense). I won't get into brand names, but just by the era you should be able to tell.
As a quick aside, it annoys the hell out of me that I'm at an age that 1970's and 1980's equipment is considered Vintage. Was it really that long ago? Rats.
Anyway, again there were some really good sounding stuff back then, and the price today may be high, but it's still good sounding stuff and worth it. But I see prices today for 40-60 year old equipment that I sold back then because it was heavily advertised, popular/known name and design (and sometimes gave me a good commission), but not because it sounded good.
So I am assuming some of this high price vintage stuff is due only to nostalgia (both in looks and sound) and collecting fun, not for listening compared to today's stuff.
I'm open to hearing other opinions, especially from someone who does like vintage (mostly 1970-80's) stuff, listens to it, and what brands they have.
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i think exctly the same... People who own 20,000 bucks amplifier and speakers or costly headphone cannot approve, if they did they will be in the obligation to admit that sound quality is not linearly related to price tags... It will be embarassing and contradictory to their choices...This is why there exist negative opinions about vintage... People BELIEVE in technical progress forgetting that companies are ruled by profit first not by S. Q. ideals and technological innovations at all cost... My Sansui amplifiers so good they are can be replaced by today technology at way higher cost but not my AkG K340 at any cost ... There exist no headphone as it is designed because it is too costly to design a new one and impossible to make a good profit margin designing one ... His soundfield experience is UNIQUE... Like it or not...
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@jhnnrrs Just wait until Crosely's and its crappy ilk start having vintage tacked to them. You're going to pull your hair out! Honestly, though, it's nostalgia with the latest generation and the really pricey stuff, I'll assume a lot of it is people who were around back then and couldn't afford it and now they can. But like the proverbial adage: It's worth what people will pay for it. |
@vitussl101 nailed it. I was a freshman in high school in 1972. I and my buddy lusted after high end gear. I had a Harmon Kardon 430 as my first "good" receiver, a Phillips turntable with highly cool (for the time) LED touch sensor buttons, and Electrovoice speakers. I moved to Phase Linear separates in 1977. I think that the yearning for vintage gear is based largely on nostalgia for the gear many lusted after in our youth. I find it hard to believe that my old '70's gear can come close to my current system. That would mean that all of the claimed improvements in wire, circuit design, capacitors, transistors, power supplies etc, through the present are meaningless, something I find hard to believe. So if the vintage craze is field by nostalgia, pay whatever you think its worth. If you are looking for great sound by today's standards, I would be surprised if vintage gear would be competitive. Take ARC for example. Many claim that the ARC REF 6, no slouch in the modern preamp department, is greatly improved by the new improvements to the SE version. So from 1974 through the present, the REF 6SE isn't a big improvement over the ARC 1974 preamps? Hard to believe. |
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