High end speakers at low volume


After having got accustomed to my new Vitus RI-101 mk II, I came to the conclusion that I need to improve my system's performance at low volume to enjoy music more.

Current sources: LinnLP12, Holo Spring 3 KTE, Nucleus. 
Speakers: Avalon Idea. 
Shunyata Delta NR V2 and Hemingway Indigo PC, Tara Labs Forté, TQ 2 Black diamond IC.

I am looking at replacing the Avalon Idea with speakers that could improve the low volume listening experience. I listen to 60 / 70db, I can afford to go up to 85db for very short time (neighbours).

I am also considering to purchase a Loki Max which I understood being quite a neutral EQ unit.

I have selected a few speakers which should match my musical taste based on what I have read:

- YG Carmel 2
- Wilson Sabrina X
- Vandersteen treo ct
- TAD ME1

I don't have the chance to listen to them except the TAD ME1 which I have enjoyed very much but not in my apartment.

Budget max $15k new or used.

I am looking for speakers sounding musical, with wide soundstage, not cold, detailed yet not analytical.

I mostly listen to classic rock, blues and jazz.

The system sits at the end of the long wall in a living room measuring 33x13ft, listening position 8ft from the speakers.

Unfortunately I have to face a tough WAF putting several limits:

- speakers must have a clean design, not black, not too hifi looking... and not too big
- distance from the wall behind the speakers 25cm

I don't mind changing amplifier if it will be necessary to match the next speakers.

I haven't found a preamp that I could consider a good candidate except a very expensive CSport featuring a loudness button which works very well (tested at Ana Mighty Sound).

I would much appreciate some advice from who knows well the above speakers or who had similar needs.

ricco275

@scott828 I know the thread is not short and people may have missed it but I have purchased a pair of TAD ME1 as showroom demo in mint condition. I love love love them and they sound terrific with the Vitus and at low volume too. Of course they could sound better at low volume as stated above by many.

congrats on finding a good deal on speakers that you really like.

current discussion about stands IF you did not buy their stands:

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/why-are-speaker-stands-so-expensive

my opinion stated there:

elliottbnewcombjr

4,068 posts

 

I prefer tilting the speakers back so the tweeter is aimed at seated ear height, thus shorter stands, and a method of tilt, like these referenced above

https://www.ebay.com/itm/322933325356?hash=item4b30537e2c:g:Ax8AAOSwwKxbu5Fh&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwE7os%2F9NrvMxBj7%2FqbegKJC8JIGA2QuGq3qndkSjS6MfMGPlar5i1w%2Bk1jdfDUp8AIE8IerC6%2FREMZwqMx3yInekBvgwZo9uv5iHZrLm9AOKf%2F8kMF%2B784TCdwE2Y8efabz8f5E0U5O7FOWzY%2B633GyGNUACwxB2xTDe5MwMz6%2BlurGwlFxlixq0LC7rcF2u2vRgGvGRv%2BzVjb7Ihvg559vf24fOP6G%2BbGX%2BD5gVNC8sTf2cI8VH4C5AwnlX%2FgMvPg%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5qB9MaZYg

 

1. Tilt or Non-Tilting stand. (Non-Tilting stand will not have rear lip on top plate)

2. Choose a size for the top and bottom platforms (up to 10" X 10")

(Top and Bottom Platforms can be the same size or different)

3. Choose a height for your stands.

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The tilt, combined with angled toe-in combine to alter the reflections from walls, ceiling, floor (both direct and reflected)

elliottbnewcombjr

4,068 posts

 

Note: matching your speaker’s color (not grain)

You could ask for unfinished oak, and a few waste strips of that oak (from that batch)..

Then you need to try on the waste strips until you find the color that works with that oak that ends up very close to your finish.

OR, asked for painted, black or send a color chip, paint can, ....

You get the idea, make them look like factory or custom.

 

@elliottbnewcombjr the stands were part of the deal and they are very good. I had custom stands with my previous speakers which were made of so called anti resonance steel platforms and solid walnut legs. They were stunning and loved by my wife. Unfortunately they performed way less well than the TAD speaker stands. TAD speakers have a damping material between speakers and stand and the bottom base is made of iron and mdf. Just with spikes I don’t have almost any resonance, the suspended wooden flooring is almost not vibrating at all. I have planned to add Symposium platforms and roller blocks for enhanced performance. 
 

my wife is expecting me to swap the stands with something better looking, ideally with wooden legs. I doubt I would achieve the same level of performance with wooden or wooden plus steel stands unfortunately. 

I agree with the wife, the stands are distractingly ug..'

However, before you rush into new ones, I encourage you to mess about with toe-in and a milk crate, something low enough to need to tilt them up, so all the angles of reflection are altered.

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I use a SPL meter to help me, on a tripod, ear height

https://www.amazon.com/BAFX-Products-Pressure-30-130dBA-Warranty/dp/B00ECCZWWI/ref=sr_1_6?crid=14U0AXDR9SBHV&keywords=sound+pressure+level+meter&qid=1687112198&sprefix=sound+press%2Caps%2C90&sr=8-6

and this test cd, with a full range of 1/3 octavetones

https://www.discogs.com/release/7290000-Various-Amazing-Bytes

expensive, I'm sure I could figure out a copy.

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