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Coda 16 vs. Pass Labs xa60.8

Hi All -

I am seriously considering purchasing a class A solid state power amp for my main system. I currently have a 100 watt Audio Hungary power tube amplifier, which I’ve been happy with, but feel it’s not quite powerful enough for larger living, dining, kitchen area which is a bigger space. I posted dimensions on another thread which I think were inaccurate, but it’s a large modern space with very high ceilings.

Why am I interested in making the change?

In my office, I have a Luxman 590axii, driving Buchardt S400 mkii speakers with a Gold Note DS-10 streamer/dac. The overall sound signature is warm with a lot of body. It’s not terribly detailed, but I enjoy the full bodied nature of the sound.

As for my main system, I have a Innuous Zenith, Merason DAC1, Linear Tube Audio Microzotl preamp, Audio Hungary/Qualiton 100 watt tube power amp, and QLN Prestige Three speakers. As some of you might remember, I sought your advice when I was looking for “warm, laid back” speakers. This system is airy, detailed, and holographic. I love the LTA preamp (what a work of art) and QLN Prestige 3 speakers (they are balanced and wonderful). As for the Audio Hungary tube amp, I like it a ton, but I’m sensing I could use a little more power to drive my speakers. While I truly enjoy this system a ton, the overall sonic signature is a little lean sounding at times. Part of me is craving a bit more bass grip and meat-on-the bones. 

After reading way too many reviews and forum feedback, I’ve shortlisted the coda 16 and Pass Labs xa60.8 mono-blocks as finalists. I’d welcome any feedback from those who have either owned and/or heard these two amps. Specifically, I’m trying to understand what the differences are in terms of sonic signatures between the two might be. As I’m looking for warmth, the Pass amps seem - based on what I’ve heard - the better fit. That said, I’ve also read many extol the virtues of the Coda 16 compared to the Pass amps. I’m also attracted to having one single heavy amp versus two. One single unit is also easier for me to sell to my wife… I’m sure some of you are familiar with these sorts of conversations…

Looking forward to your feedback and advice.

 

 

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yyzsantabarbara
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@bluethinker I own the CODA #16, owned the KRELL Duo 175XD, and demoed the Luxman.

Nothing smokes any of these components. It is a matter of your sonic preference. My favorite amp is the Benchmark AHB2, so that is a frame of reference for my statements.

The CODA comes closest to the AHB2 in terms of transparency, but it is not as clear and clean sounding as the AHB2. However, it is the second best in this regard and the best in terms of drive and power. This amp is a monster with finesse. The best overall amp I have owned.

I tried the CODA #16 with the Magnepan LRS+, KEF LS50 Meta, and now Yamaha NS5000. The NS5000 and CODA #16 is stunning. The CODA increased the bass on each of these speakers.

I need a second amp for my LRS+ and I was and still thinking of the KRELL Duo 300XD for $6250 used. Check A’gon or USAM. The only reason I have not gotten it is that it is big, and I want something smaller for my office. I have a PeachTree GAN400 coming today for the LRS+, which could work.

Reading your statements on the Luxman 509x, I would think the KRELL Duo 300XD would be a great choice for you. It is 300 watts in Class A. DOES NOT RUN HOT. it has fans but it never turned on for me with my 175XD. It is also the smoothest, and most relaxing sound I have ever had in the house. It is also very strong on the bass. I think the CODA #16 is a bit stronger, but it is a close call. I have owned the 175XD and also the KRELL 300i integrated so I know this sound pretty good. The KRELL Duo 300XD would be incredible with my LRS+ and the NS5000.

Actually, the ideal amp for my office would be something like the Luxman m900u because it has the dual zone speaker setup. I need something like that for my LRS+ and RAAL SR1a headphones. So, if my Peachtree GAN400 does not make me happy I will look at an amp with dual zone feature.

I am also thinking of a crazier plan of buying the KRELL i400 amp for my NS5000 and moving the CODA #16 with my LRS+ (amazing combo). I am trying to decide whether to put stupid money towards an expensive amp, or the expensive Playback Designs DAC, or stay the course with more affordable gear.

 

 

bluethinker66
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Thank you ALL for your feedback. I really appreciate it. 

 

@mm1tt77 -
@yyzsantabarbara - Thanks for your suggestion on the Krell amps. I am not familiar with them, so I've spent some time getting myself acquainted. 

@jeffreyw - I'd be curious to hear your side by side comparisons of the Coda 16 vs. the Luxman amp? Where or how was the Luxman superior? 

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jeffreyw
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@bluethinker 

I did not do a side-by-side. The CODA 16 that I had was paired with the B&W 802 D3 series. The Luxman M10X was played through a pair of Kef Ref1 Metas. I have also heard the Luxman through a pair of the 802 D4 series B&W. In both auditions with different speakers, the Luxman gave me a thrill that the CODA could not. 

The Luxman to my ears was better in every way, with more powerful bass, a slightly warmish midrange, and beautiful highs. I think CODA is a great USA-manufactured product with tremendous customer service. The bad part, CODA resale is pitiful. Expect no more than 50% back if you purchase new. 

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steve59
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I know we all come on here and promote the latest product that created synergy within our own system...that said A few years ago I tried several products on the sane side of 'hi end' Parasound a21 with krell pre, peachtree nova 300, anthem 225i, anthem STR integrated, hegel h190 and h360, I was also upgrading my speakers and it was really interesting how my amp preference could change depending on speakers. I only still have the H360 from those early attempts and since settling on a pair of speakers that need some shove I added a pair of Mac MC611's. WOW, Try everything you can get home into your own system! 

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