Why Do Cables Matter?


To me, all you need is low L, C, and R. I run Mogami W3104 bi-wire from my McIntosh MAC7200 to my Martin Logan Theos. We all know that a chain is only as strong as its' weakest link - so I am honestly confused by all this cable discussion. 

What kind of wiring goes from the transistor or tube to the amplifier speaker binding post inside the amplifier? It is usually plain old 16 ga or 14 ga copper. Then we are supposed to install 5 - 10' or so of wallet-emptying, pipe-sized pure CU or AG with "special configurations" to the speaker terminals?

What kind of wiring is inside the speaker from the terminals to the crossover, and from the crossover to the drivers? Usually plain old 16 ga or 14 ga copper.

So you have "weak links" inside the amplifier, and inside the speaker, so why bother with mega expensive cabling between the two? It doesn't make logical sense to me. It makes more sense to match the quality of your speaker wires with the existing wires in the signal path [inside the amplifier and inside the speaker].

 

 

kinarow1

@nonoise You are full of blather but short on direct answers to your religion of cables.

It's easy to throw out put downs, you can do better than that.

Why are expensive cables so important:

"When everyone is special no one is special" 
 

@donavabdear -

        #1-    I never said, "bad cables".     A, "bad" cable (in my lexicon) would be a cable that doesn't convey ANY signal.

        'Crappy' would include the sort that come with most equipment, or: those that utilize dielectrics such as PVC, or other cheap-out constructions*, that are detrimental to audio signals.

               *Admittedly: even some cheap, after-market cables perform better than the manufacturer-provided garbage.

         #2: 

 You are wrong about DSP not making up for problems in the signal. 

          What I said was your digital gyrations (whatever form that may take) can never recover information LOST along a signal pathway.

           Of course: the sound of a system can be tweaked with regards to a plethora of parameters, via DSP (which my TacT RCS 2.2X pre provides in spades), BUT: if critical components of the ORIGINAL signal are lost, there isn't a device manufactured that can recreate those, at any cost. 

            Again, for many of us: an accurate simulacrum of performers and their performances in a particular venue, is the desire/goal.

            That requires maintaining the original signal, in as unaltered a state, as possible.

                                    The common term: transparency.

             How anyone else chooses to listen to their music, or: manipulate their signals, in their own listening environs, is strictly their own affair.

              Even when in the business of designing and building systems for others; I never tried to change a customer's aural palette, though many viewed listening to my demo systems an awakening.

                        My credo was, "The customer always thinks they're right!"

               The problem I have in these threads is the number that go about trying to dissuade others, from experimenting with their own systems.

                                             As I often aver: 

     No one can tell you whether/how your system, room and/or ears will respond to some new addition.   There are simply too many variables.

     LIKEWISE: no one can possibly know whether a new addition (ie: some kind of disc, crystal, fuse, interconnect, speaker cable, etc)  will make a difference, in their system and room, with their media and to their ears, without trying them for themselves.   

     Some companies offer a 30 Day Satisfaction Guarantee, so- those that are actually interested, have absolutely nothing to lose, by trying (experimenting with) such.     

                                               Happy listening!

@donavabdear 

Just like with your legion of straw men arguments and appeals to authority, meant to deflect from the actual subject (which is your wont), projection is another of your ploys, accusing others of some religious fervor when it's you trying your level best to convert with all manner of nonsense arguments. 

All you do is proselytize and then end you mini rant with some lame proverb of sorts meant to make one think of oneself as placing themselves above others. You need help.

All the best,
Nonoise

And again why is it that audiophiles think they can add any information to the sound with expensive equipment and cables

@donavabdear : how many times do you need to be told the same thing over and over? It’s not about adding information, it’s about loosing as little information as possible. It’s like hitting the head against the wall with you. How many lines at a time can you read? Do you actually read anything other people write, or do you just enjoy yourself talking?

I’m just pointing out logical problems with the audiophile community as a whole.

Yup! Everyone already knows you despise the audiophile community as a whole. So what are trying to accomplish here? In a forum catering to audiophiles. To me, that’s the very definition of trolling

Why is it that audiophiles think that resolution (sample rate) is the same as resolution in pixel rate in vision

I don’t know what to think about this statement of yours on audiophiles. I don’t know whether to laugh, or be outraged by your offensiveness and extreme put down of an entire group of audio enthusiasts 

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