Larry, thanks so much for the response. Currently using Fritz Carbon 7SE mk 2 bookshelf, and really like them. I heard the ART on a u tube video through some very nice computer monitors and the sound was great. When I looked them up, I couldn't believe how small they were, but, the sound appeared MASSIVE! Prior to yesterday I had never heard of the company before. As we all have this hobby,(obsession) you would think the name would be mentioned more often, but, not. New, they go for about 6k. Pair that I'm looking at around 4k , full warranty, etc. Are they that good? Room being used is 13' x13' 9' ceilings, Rock and Roll only. Sorry for being so windy. Robert TN