Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?

+1 laoman & ossicle2brain

I think we often misinterpret measurements; measurements are measurements regardless of ones biases on liking the equipment in question. For example, a speaker’s frequency response can tell you if a speaker will sound flat, or neutral or bright regardless of what you may like. Amir has demonstrated that some highly regarded amps measured not so well when compared to lower cost ones, does date mean the lower cost sounds better? I would argue that yes and no. The higher costly amp that measured not favorable is what probably makes it more appealing when listening due to the inherent or added distortion by design when listening. Just like tube amps that measured poorly when compared to solid state but that distortion from tubes is what attracts us. So, in away Amir has not changed my mind but has brought awareness when looking at a product.

"I for one believe you.  Imagine that.  Trusting how something sounds!    "

I do too!  There is no question that is what he perceived.  It is just that we don't know if that depended on the actual output of said DACs or other extraneous factors.  Our brain is a wonderful thing when it comes to manufacturing facts.  To make sure that is not happening, we only trust listening tests where only the sound is involved, not the rest of your senses. 

You don't believe me?  Allow me to call my expert witness who has shown up in this thread, AJ (Soundfiled).  This is what he had to say on discussion of whether an external DAC improves the sound of an Oppo player:  https://www.avsforum.com/threads/using-oppo-bdp-95-as-source-is-outboard-dac-going-to-make-a-difference.1389093/page-2

"Then you don't need to spend more than $100 to replace your presumably failing/broken Sony BDP. If transparent audio signal transfer is your concern."

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"I didn't say that [that two dacs don't sound different]. My position is that I don't see any evidence whatsoever to support the notion that it does. And no, the blathering of ignorant crazy people and fabricated "tests" online isn't evidence to support superior DAC sound. It's evidence to support ignorance, craziness and truly infantile and sad resorts, like fabrications."

AJ, you want to take over from here?  Strange to see you silent given how much you hate stuff like this.

@laoman 

""Indeed, his measurements are patterned after mine and using exactly the same measurement gear."

WRONG. He no longer uses what you use."

Oh yeh? What does he use?  

@amir_asr You and AJ need to have a panel on YouTube or a sound off somewhere. I'd pay to see it. So much sexual tension there. 

Amir, you didn't address your old posts where you didnt level match. Neither of you get to extol the virtues of one thing and then switch mid-race to pretend you always were on the other side. I mean you can but then you both are hypocrites. 

There are some lessons and info to be learned but you both are the reason I dislike the term audiophile and this world in general. You both sell speakers. 

I won't use ASR anymore and I wouldn't buy AJs speakers even you paid me. You two are insufferable. You'd be awesome politicians because you attack the other like kids in the sandbox shoving the other for a toy, not really answering the pertinent questions.