Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?

"I for one believe you.  Imagine that.  Trusting how something sounds!    "

I do too!  There is no question that is what he perceived.  It is just that we don't know if that depended on the actual output of said DACs or other extraneous factors.  Our brain is a wonderful thing when it comes to manufacturing facts.  To make sure that is not happening, we only trust listening tests where only the sound is involved, not the rest of your senses. 

You don't believe me?  Allow me to call my expert witness who has shown up in this thread, AJ (Soundfiled).  This is what he had to say on discussion of whether an external DAC improves the sound of an Oppo player:  https://www.avsforum.com/threads/using-oppo-bdp-95-as-source-is-outboard-dac-going-to-make-a-difference.1389093/page-2

"Then you don't need to spend more than $100 to replace your presumably failing/broken Sony BDP. If transparent audio signal transfer is your concern."

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"I didn't say that [that two dacs don't sound different]. My position is that I don't see any evidence whatsoever to support the notion that it does. And no, the blathering of ignorant crazy people and fabricated "tests" online isn't evidence to support superior DAC sound. It's evidence to support ignorance, craziness and truly infantile and sad resorts, like fabrications."

AJ, you want to take over from here?  Strange to see you silent given how much you hate stuff like this.

@laoman 

""Indeed, his measurements are patterned after mine and using exactly the same measurement gear."

WRONG. He no longer uses what you use."

Oh yeh? What does he use?  

@amir_asr You and AJ need to have a panel on YouTube or a sound off somewhere. I'd pay to see it. So much sexual tension there. 

Amir, you didn't address your old posts where you didnt level match. Neither of you get to extol the virtues of one thing and then switch mid-race to pretend you always were on the other side. I mean you can but then you both are hypocrites. 

There are some lessons and info to be learned but you both are the reason I dislike the term audiophile and this world in general. You both sell speakers. 

I won't use ASR anymore and I wouldn't buy AJs speakers even you paid me. You two are insufferable. You'd be awesome politicians because you attack the other like kids in the sandbox shoving the other for a toy, not really answering the pertinent questions. 

Our brain Amir is not primary in the job of "fabricating facts" he put us in relation to reality to begin with, if it was otherwise we will not have survives his tricking  illusions ...And our brain is here to be trained not to read electrical measures as hearing truth...Amir you resemble a marketer selling gear like a twin...Sorry...Why not stay an informant about gear falsification and not to claim  what people will hear based on electrical measures dials ?

And no acoustician work blindfold and in a blind test...Guess why ?

Anybody can acquire hearing training in his own room...

it is ridiculous to reduce what we are hearing to dac specs and blindfold test...

You must debunk market gear claims thanks for the information... thats all all, because  what is added after that is technological cultism...

But thinking that people are passive consumers only and are unable to train themselves to acoustically embed their gear but must listen your measures to buy what they will listen to, if not, their "brain will fabricated reality" is beyond preposterous...

If many subjectivist audiophiles are deluded, i think many objectivists are deluded too... It is funny that i am among the few to see what they linked them to each other in antagonistic ridiculous wars like twins : psycho-acoustic ignorance of hearing and acoustic and obsession with gear components......

@mahgister 

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