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Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?

It’s easy to make snide remarks like “yes- I do the opposite of what he says.”  And in some respects I agree, but if you do that, this is just going to be taken down. So I’m asking a serious question. Has ASR actually changed your opinion on anything?  For me, I would say 2 things. I am a conservatory-trained musician and I do trust my ears. But ASR has reminded me to double check my opinions on a piece of gear to make sure I’m not imagining improvements. Not to get into double blind testing, but just to keep in mind that the brain can be fooled and make doubly sure that I’m hearing what I think I’m hearing. The second is power conditioning. I went from an expensive box back to my wiremold and I really don’t think I can hear a difference. I think that now that I understand the engineering behind AC use in an audio component, I am not convinced that power conditioning affects the component output. I think. 
So please resist the urge to pile on. I think this could be a worthwhile discussion if that’s possible anymore. I hope it is. 

chayro
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laoman
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curtdr

 

Curt, I am certainly not against measurements. What I find absurd is to say that equipment that measures the same sounds the same. So many on Amir’s site have said this. Not once has Amir commented on these posts.
I and others, have been thrown off Amir’s site because we questioned this. There have been many posts along the line of "You are a fool for buying this or that" because you can spend $100 and get as good/better, (insert what you will), with xyz.
The fact is that there are some very rude people on ASR - it is an unpleasant site - and when Amir comes here to recruit, he does not answer half of what is asked of him and acts in a condescending manner and claims he is doing audiophiles a service. This of course is absurd. At least he is not thrown off the site and that is a good thing.
I agree this thread has become ridiculous, however a lot of the bile vented at Amir is of his own making because of his high handed attitude and that of his camp followers.
Look at his comment on Erin's post, "Hate clickbait titles like that." As soon as he posted that in waded the minions and his attack dogs and there really are a couple of nasty people in that group.

amir_asr
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"Amir, you kicked me off your "Audio Science" forum for being "too objective", because I insisted only valid listening tests mattered, not "SINAD" and "ETC" many of your cult worship. "

As your language here quite demonstrates, we banned you from ASR due to being the most obnoxious person I know on these forums.  Heaven knows how many people you have alienated from audio science with your hostile posting and attitude which conveying next to no knowledge. 

The above, and refusal to practice anything you preach to subjectivists was the reason we let you go.  When I asked you for blind tests of your speakers, your tap dance would have earned you a seat at Julliard.  Here is quick example:

 https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/what-do-listeners-prefer-for-small-room-acoustics.286/post-9179

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amirm said:

Last I checked you [AJ/soundfield] don't do any blind acoustic tests either.

[AJ/Soundfiled:] For what conflicts with what objective evidence exactly Amir? What am I to blind test for specifically? Red Herrings?

As if that were not enough, you have now turned into speaker salesman looking to protect your pocketbook by appease to this membership. In a thread where people are attacking audio science, blind testing, engineering, etc. you are not only completely silent, but rather have a fight with me.  I say your transition to subjectivity is complete.  Thank heavens as we don't remotely want someone this miserable in our camp.

I once asked JJ (my chief audio architect and one of audio luminaries) about people like you.  He made this wise statement: "an unreasonable advocate is worst of both worlds!"   

invalid
1,311 posts
 

It's pretty arrogant to think we know all there is to know about electromagnetism.

amir_asr
777 posts
 

@laoman 

"Curt, I am certainly not against measurements. What I find absurd is to say that equipment that measures the same sounds the same. So many on Amir's site have said this."

No one has said this.  You all keep making stuff up and then complain about it.  Members frequently say the opposite.  That superlative measurements of something doesn't mean it sounds better than something with lesser performance.

"The fact is that there are some very rude people on ASR"

What a tone deaf comment to make.  In a thread with hostility shown from a dozen or more members toward me, your fellow audiophiles, audio science and engineer, you have the gall to talk about rudeness?  

We have very low tolerance for rudeness.  I just commented above how we let AJ go because he was so obnoxious.  It didn't matter that that he talked about objectivity.  

Yes, if you show up on ASR and make wild comments that you can't back, you will get strong pushback.  Get rude and we will show you the door. 

amir_asr
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"It's pretty arrogant to think we know all there is to know about electromagnetism."

It is even more arrogant to think that because we don't know everything, we know nothing.  Your doctor diagnoses what is wrong with you without knowing "all there is" about human body.  Somehow for a hobby like this, you demand to know it all or else lets forget about it all....

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