@mapman : I make zero money by posting here. Are you not the same?
Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?
It’s easy to make snide remarks like “yes- I do the opposite of what he says.” And in some respects I agree, but if you do that, this is just going to be taken down. So I’m asking a serious question. Has ASR actually changed your opinion on anything? For me, I would say 2 things. I am a conservatory-trained musician and I do trust my ears. But ASR has reminded me to double check my opinions on a piece of gear to make sure I’m not imagining improvements. Not to get into double blind testing, but just to keep in mind that the brain can be fooled and make doubly sure that I’m hearing what I think I’m hearing. The second is power conditioning. I went from an expensive box back to my wiremold and I really don’t think I can hear a difference. I think that now that I understand the engineering behind AC use in an audio component, I am not convinced that power conditioning affects the component output. I think.
So please resist the urge to pile on. I think this could be a worthwhile discussion if that’s possible anymore. I hope it is.
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@thyname I make no money posting. But many here do. They have products and services to sell and there are no forum rules against vendors posting here. But. Audiogon is a business that makes money by enabling sales. I’d surmise the forum is deemed a positive tool towards that end by allowing people to discuss things related to the things sold. Amir’s site is one of many resources buyers have at their disposal to help make better informed decisions. |
@mapman : what is Amir selling in Audiogon? I fail to see any Amir’s items for sale on his profile. Zero items sold either. Do you care to elaborate on your statement ?
https://www.audiogon.com/users/amir_asr
Please explain to me: how does Audiogon make money out of this? Other from deflection of Audiogon users to ASR ( Amir’s own website Amir Science Review). Are you implying Amir is paying Audiogon (under the table) to post here promoting his site?
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So after all this we find that measurements are pretty useless for telling us how something will sound. So going to ASR to judge HI FI products is pretty useless. Maggies sound terrible according to the measurements. And cheap Topping DACs sound great because they measure that way. And measuring before listening is the way to really hear. How can one know to what to hear before seeing the specs. Thank you Amir. I've learned a lot.
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Specs that have nothing to do with audio performance. They are nice people with good intentions so lent me review samples (after I tried to buy them). Here is the review of the iconoclast cable where I showed not only with measurements that the cable does nothing compared to a generic one, but also with a null test of music: As you see, the null shows nothing but noise at threshold of hearing (which is the limit of the test). The files and null output are there to listen to. Net, net, please don't be impressed by fancy looking "specs." If you trust your ears, ask the manufacturer for ears-only controlled listening test results. If you are in favor of measurements, ask them for measurements of the output of the audio device, NOT the cable/tweak. If that doesn't change, then the cable is not doing anything extra for the 10 to 20X more money you spent on it. |
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