Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?


It’s easy to make snide remarks like “yes- I do the opposite of what he says.”  And in some respects I agree, but if you do that, this is just going to be taken down. So I’m asking a serious question. Has ASR actually changed your opinion on anything?  For me, I would say 2 things. I am a conservatory-trained musician and I do trust my ears. But ASR has reminded me to double check my opinions on a piece of gear to make sure I’m not imagining improvements. Not to get into double blind testing, but just to keep in mind that the brain can be fooled and make doubly sure that I’m hearing what I think I’m hearing. The second is power conditioning. I went from an expensive box back to my wiremold and I really don’t think I can hear a difference. I think that now that I understand the engineering behind AC use in an audio component, I am not convinced that power conditioning affects the component output. I think. 
So please resist the urge to pile on. I think this could be a worthwhile discussion if that’s possible anymore. I hope it is. 

chayro

@prof-

                                                  NOT AT ALL your, "point"!

                          Given your lack of comprehension: NO SURPRISE, either.

                                   Your beliefs precisely define the 'Cargo Cult'.

 

One thing about "science" in these discussions.  Much of what we want to convey has nothing to do with "science."  Ordinary engineering knowledge and methods are more than adequate to prove or disprove marketing claims or fidelity.  Equipment is said to have darker background and hence, lower noise floor.  Well, we can trivially measure that and we do that day in and day out at ASR.  We do not need to invoke "science" in that.

When we do use science, it is not in the process of creating more of it.  Example: more than four decades of scientific research shows that speakers that are most preferred are the ones with on axis and smooth off-axis (not flat).  So we measure those parameters and get to use science to predict what sounds good to us.

Sadly, the word science is being used as a weapon in these discussions.  Folks claim that "science says it doesn't know everything" so we should pretend we know nothing about how a piece of wire works.  Well, no, again, we are not attempting to create science.  Simple testing shows whether said wire does something good, nothing, or makes things worse.  Science doesn't get involved or invoked in that. 

Much of what audiophiles worry about is subject of any scientific research.  Why?  Because such research is not deemed necessary.  We know the answers.  We don't need to keep looking for an alternative.

@kevn 

@amir_asr 

Amir, what of the fact that all along, you have only been measuring just the electrical half of electromagnetism. Can you explain the loss of logic in basing your entire belief system on that?

Huh?  What do you call speaker and headphone testing? Devoid of magnetism?  How do they make sound then (putting aside electrostatics and such).

Power supplies in audio gear use transformers so their magnetic properties are also encapsulated in the overall performance of a device.

The ending of that sentence is key: don't try to get ahead of the train.  As an audiophile, your only concern should be what comes out of your audio gear.  Not how some physical theory acts on the design of said equipment.  You don't listen to that phenomenon.