Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?

Cargo cult science is a pseudoscientific method of research that favors evidence that confirms an assumed hypothesis. In contrast with the scientific method, there is no vigorous effort to disprove or delimit the hypothesis.^[1] The term cargo cult science was first used by physicist Richard Feynman during his 1974 commencement address at the California Institute of Technology.^[1]

Cargo cults are religious practices that have appeared in many traditional tribal societies in the wake of interaction with technologically advanced cultures.

     Do a bit a research and you'll learn those primitives were limited in their understanding, of what they saw with their eyes, based on their prior experience, education and BIASES.

                                                A rewind:

                 It isn't that the Denyin'tologists are ignorant.

               It's they're knowing* so much, that's WRONG.

                       *heart of the Dunning-Kruger Effect

                                              OR, two:

     The Church of the Naysayer Doctrine (like every other faith-based, religious cult) has as many dopes as it does Popes.   

     Bring up anything resembling SCIENCE/PHYSICS, dated later than the 1800’s and they become apoplectic, not having the formal education to comprehend the concepts, or- possible ramifications.    THAT would be hilarious, were it not so pathetic!        

           Gimme That Old Time Religion, Gimme That Old Time Religion, etc.

        At the very first mention of something as simple as Wave Function (a BASIC tenet of Quantum Mechanics), the Cargo Cult will label you a KOOK.

        But remember: they can only view/understand you, based on their limited experience, education and BIASES.

         They have overlooked the fact that, if not for the hypotheses/theories and experimentation, regarding Quantum Mechanics: a plethora of modern conveniences, medical devices and the gear they so love, would not exist.

          Had scientists, chemists and inventors shared the doctrines of the Cargo Cult (Denyin'tologists), there would be no semiconductors, computer chips, LASERs, or Magnetic Resonance Imaging devices (MRIs).

                                         Solid State amps?

                                     OOPS (back to tubes)!

                                        Your Smart Phone?

                                        FA'GET ABOUT IT!

                                         Your car's GPS?

                                                NOPE!

    Then too: some may be willfully ignorant and just enjoy being contentious.

                        Others: obtuse, uneducated*, misinformed?

      *Typically, from what's been exhibited here: H.S. STEM, if that, would be a safe inference.

      Either way: the result, when the Cult begins it's rhetoric is a classic demo of the Dunning- Kruger Effect.

                                          But, I digress: 

       Bring up those pesky details, regarding the likes of QED, Dielectric Absorption, Poynting's theorem and possible application/effects, relative to frequency, that our musical signals are carried via photon or wave, outside the conductor and you're a KOOK?

         Again: the Cargo Cult can only understand anyone with an actual background, experience and education in Physics/QED, based on their beliefs, education, experience and biases

                                      Remember this?.

     One anecdote  that some may find interesting: their walks in the woods and how his father would encourage him to look beyond the fact that something in nature exists, but into why and how.

     It saddened him, that while attending college, during a visit home and one of their walks: his dad asked what he was learning in college.

     At that moment, he realized: if he tried to explain what he was learning, there was no way his dad could understand.                               

                            It wasn't an insult or condescension.

                                                Just reality.

                                    Oh well: let 'em go build a runway!

                                                    references:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Applications_of_quantum_mechanics#:~:text=Examples%20include%20lasers%2C%20electron%20microscopes,systems%2C%20computer%20and%20telecommunication%20devices.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chadorzel/2015/08/13/what-has-quantum-mechanics-ever-done-for-us/?sh=37c459944046

https://uwaterloo.ca/institute-for-quantum-computing/quantum-101/quantum-applications-today

          But: I'm a kook, because I believe in the SCIENCE, from which all that sprang?

     https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/five-practical-uses-spooky-quantum-mechanics-180953494/

           Einstein got that last one wrong (Quantum Entanglement), BUT- I still wish he'd been alive, when the Hubble Telescope proved, what he considered his, "greatest blunder" (his inability to bring symmetry to his field equation, without lambda.

  https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/200507/history.cfm#:~:text=Einstein's%20original%20equations%20had%20been,how%20the%20universe%20will%20end.                                            How about that?

Another example of a hypothesis/theory, with no way to EXPERIMENT/MEASURE, what you're sure must be there, in some detectable way, or another.

                                               Just for fun:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/6-times-quantum-physics-blew-our-minds-in-2022/

                                            Happy listening!

it is comical if you realize there is top musicians here, designer engineers and others very informed people about all aspects of audio... 

What is even more comical is thinking any of those disciplines teach you anything about acoustic science.  My piano teacher doesn't know a tweeter from a woofer.  A design engineer is taught how to put electronic circuits together, not deal with psychoacoustics of sound in a room.  As to other "informed people," I don't know who they are and what their qualifications are if they are hiding behind aliases.

That’s a hell of an investment. $100k on a measurement system as opposed to $100k on a system. Whatever boat you float….

I am thankful and fortunate enough to have both.  Didn't you see the picture of my system earlier?  

You only have audio as a music hobby.  I also have it as a hobby when it comes to discovery of performance of those systems and sharing them with others. The joy that comes from that easily rivals if not beat listening to music.  Take today's review, the superbly designed Neumann KH120 II Studio Monitor:

Check out its frequency response:

Absolutely stunning.  It is nearly as flat as audio electronics yet what you see is an electromechanical device.  Read the comments and see the level of appreciation and tell me doing this review didn't bring joy to my heart.

Are you playing with me ? why deforming my thinking ?

I learned acoustic by studying but experimenting at the same time... You cannot change the fact...by mocking all people here and thinking you are alone with books and articles... and only you can read them...

You proved you know little in acoustic because you never done it yourself... using EQ is not an acoustically "tour de force"...

 

State for me the fundamental problem in psycho-acoustic and show me your deep understanding ...

You never did it a bit in the last 5 days... 😊

What is even more comical is thinking any of those disciplines teach you anything about acoustic science. My piano teacher doesn’t know a tweeter from a woofer.

What astonish me with your arrogance and despise for audiophiles here, is not what you say, it is the fact you are not even conscious that anybody reading your posts with a brain know you know NOTHING in psycho-aqcoustic save the tools instruction manual of your psycho-aqcoustic costly toys..

you dont impress me and me, apart my acoustic experments, i am a nobody in audio .. I learned how to listen tough... Try to tune your room from your basement plumber and house discarded materials and come back to show me the soundfield results ? We will see if you had digested Toole information as more than ABSTRACT recipe ... I know designer here who i read and i KNOW that they KNOW what they speak about... They dont play boss..

😊😊

 

You spoke to  me as if i was a child and not really there adressing a crowd  and as if i did not do it already with complete success... You are right on one point, it takes me one year of tuning non stop ... It was very fun but very complex... By the way it COST ME NOTHING.... I

I don't know what you know or have done.  I am not a mind reader.  You asked me "what I think of Helmholtz resonators" and I answered.

As to you having deployed that, these tuned products are designed to solve a specific problem with a very specific solution.  The only way to know both of those components is with high resolution measurements of bass frequencies.  You have not provided anything of the sort.  For all we know, you may not have had the problem you thought you had, nor solved it the way you think you have.

I have had people report building these things, deploying them, and unlike you, measuring them only to see that they don't do much of anything for them.

And that statement about costing nothing is absurd.  Even if you built it yourself, there is material cost.  The thing doesn't materialize itself out of thin air, pun intended.