Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?


It’s easy to make snide remarks like “yes- I do the opposite of what he says.”  And in some respects I agree, but if you do that, this is just going to be taken down. So I’m asking a serious question. Has ASR actually changed your opinion on anything?  For me, I would say 2 things. I am a conservatory-trained musician and I do trust my ears. But ASR has reminded me to double check my opinions on a piece of gear to make sure I’m not imagining improvements. Not to get into double blind testing, but just to keep in mind that the brain can be fooled and make doubly sure that I’m hearing what I think I’m hearing. The second is power conditioning. I went from an expensive box back to my wiremold and I really don’t think I can hear a difference. I think that now that I understand the engineering behind AC use in an audio component, I am not convinced that power conditioning affects the component output. I think. 
So please resist the urge to pile on. I think this could be a worthwhile discussion if that’s possible anymore. I hope it is. 

chayro

This thread kind of reminds me of a squash match in pro wrestling. Look it up!

Lots of resistance here though just not very effective from where I sit. 

The overall measured electrical performance of the device, you mean. You're paltering again, Amir. You haven't answered the question - why have you based your entire belief system on just the electrical half of electromagnetism? The point is, you don't really know, because accurate measurement and analysis of the other profound side hasn't been invented yet.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gNEjwvEe8HA

Your ears must have really evolved to detect magnetic field of audio gear. 

Make sure you have no jewelry on you as that could disturb the field.  When sitting in the room, align yourself with earth's magnetic force as otherwise, the two will fight and will raise the noise floor of your system. 

You may also want to orient your speaker backward as to be closer to the driver magnet.  That will make them sound louder then because your ears will be closer.  Experiment with the speakers on the side.  That would make it field more parallel to the magnetic axis of your body.

I am told human body can generate a magnetic field.  In that regard, when listening with others, you may want to experiment with having them lay down while you are sitting up.  Again, that works on magnetic orthogonality principle which can remove the veil from your system, assuming of course that it is high enough resolution (magnetically speaking).

It will not even matter that many audiophiles may be led down your narrow view - as evidenced by the likes of their comments, they are as perfunctory as you.

How do you know that?  Have you been to an audiologist and have them measure your ability to detect magnetic field?  Many of the ASR members have and as a class, they are far superior to folks on other forums. 

Please don't confuse this with "magnetic personality."  That is a different thing.  Oh wait... maybe it is one in the same!

What we are hearing from you cannot be definitively measured either, but there is a science that has identified it.

How do you know?  Maybe all you need is a compass!

  Eureka I believe we’ve detected a sense of humor ! Major Breakthrough! 🥳

@chayro 

This comes late, chayro, but I am now able to say what I have learned from/about Amir.

The first is that he does very thorough testing on the electrical performance of audio equipment, and that he understands the electrical side of audio reasonably well.

The second is that he firmly believes that everything evident in purely electrical measurements is sufficient to determine everything electromagnetism is about, as well is its effect on the time domain.

Thirdly, he avoids discussion on issues he does not have answers for, reducing everything and anything only to the narrowness of the things he does, and if pushed for a direct response, engages paltering, conflation, and prevarication, to avoid having to answer directly. When he has nothing intelligent left to say, he resorts to sealioning and the kind of trailer park humour he accuses others of.

Fourth, he is involved in the act of performance testing. It is about the regurgitation of answers, based on the known and the established. It is a bureaucratic task, but one that provides the place necessary for a particular kind of confidence to thrive.

Fifth, he is unable to tell apart music files of low and high resolution, and based on this lack of ability, determines that measurements in performance testing is all that is needed to determine what is heard, and what is not.

Finally, and most vitally, almost everything in the way he communicates, presents his experiences as complete, indisputable, and omnipotent; absolutely void of any possible error of judgement and correction, purely based on his knowledge on the electrical side of electromagnetism, and his lack of listening skills. The term used to describe such behaviour is narcissism. It is not a term pulled from conjecture, but entirely based on what he writes, the way he writes it, and the appeal to the infallibility with which he underlines it all.

What I do know of someone who lacks the ability to listen skilfully, is that they should not be allowed to overcompensate by persuading other less experienced audiophiles not to learn how to listen as well - it is wicked, ignorant and unbecoming of anyone aspiring to teach.

To objections over issues he has failed to address, he engages the constant refrain of “We know a ton about audio” which, true as it may be, has absolutely nothing to do with everything we do not know - his statements over issues of deeper debate, technical or conversational, are almost all examples of paltering, the appropriation of unrelated truths to justify the argument of an entirely different issue.

He conflates his position with that of a doctor, and then listening ability with that of medicine. And then takes the ultimate step of conflating the knowledge a doctor has with that he possesses. And finally, palters comment on his narcissistic behaviour with the truth of what doctors do. Then claims it is an insult to himself, when the term is used to describe exactly what he is.

Narcissism is defined by the Cambridge dictionary as “having too much interest in and admiration for oneselfNarcissistic people have a hard time seeing another person's point of view. ”TheMayo clinic defines narcissistic personality disorder as “a mental health condition in which people have an unreasonably high sense of their own importance. They need and seek attention and want people to admire them. People with this disorder may lack the ability to understand or care about the feelings of others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence, they are not sure of their self-worth and are easily upset by the slightest criticism.” Encyclopaedia Brittanica defines narcissists as those who “thrive on being recognised as an authority”, and narcissistic behaviour as being inclusive of “viewing oneself as exceptional, and engaging arrogance, feigned superiority, and aggressiveness upon failure to receive confirmation that others hold them in high regard."

Speaking to the indexes, tests, and abbreviations he seems to subscribe to so ardently, there is something known as the NPI, the Narcissistic Personality Inventory, that is widely used used to assess narcissistic personality disorder. It is widely known that those diagnosed with this disorder cannot be trusted to be involved in any kind of discussion which is productive, until the extent of their disorder is determined.

To sum it all, Amir knows a lot. From his measurements, we have discovered how certain manufacturers either fudge test results or leave them ambiguous, in the hope of better sales. We know how certain reviews do the same, to serve agendas that do disservice to the hobby. But, as is true of every imperfect human being alive, he does not know everything, which he will never acknowledge, as he has built he entire narrative and reputation on something that happened a long time ago, an experience that we each have had at some point in each our separate journeys – he couldn’t hear a difference between audio items that claimed so. This combined with his narcissistic personality disorder he developed over the years for whatever reasons, has created the reactions and communications now witnessed from him.

For the less personally offended, the incident of not having good listening skills would not have scarred so badly, but it would not have been easy recovery for the egotestical, obviously, and not having having better listening skills, electrical testing serves the easy way out. It has resulted in this little audio crusade against the entire spectrum of manufacturers in a hobby that is not a war, but which is treats with the seriousness of one, shallow reputation being at stake.

For the rest in wonderful hobby, developing listening skills are considerably more important than allowing our abilities to intelligently decide be instead determined by numbers and measurements of half the electromagnetic spectrum. 

 

With that, I wish you well : )

 

In friendship - kevin.

@kevn 

nice post, but a couple items:

when has Amir said he knows everything? I am not a regular follower of his content, so I could certainly have missed it.

given the history and the current state of the industry, rife with snake oil, pushing manufacturers to back up their claims is 100% a good thing. 

listening is subjective, and very influenced by biases, but with the appropriate balance of objective information, you can truly develop your listening skills. 

there are way too many people on this forum (and others) that would buy a special “audiophile” air purifier for their listening room thousands of dollars, and then in every post, they are a hammer looking for a nail as resolution to all subjects and issues.

 

 

there are always two sides of the coin, and if you force a division, nobody wins.