This e-mail has been cryogenically treated


I’d like to announce that, for no additional charge, all of my e-mails will be cryogenically treated. You can’t prove otherwise.

Seriously though, when a manufacturer claims their product has been cryogenically treated how would we even know? At least with seafood we can run DNA analysis, and often we find out we are being ripped off.

How would we know this about cables, plugs, power connectors, etc? Has anyone ever even seen this being done? That’s actually a serious question. I have never actually seen this happening.

How would we even know if, for instance, they treated a batch in 1995 and no longer do?

erik_squires

I've been cryogenically treating pretty much all my cables, receptacles, etc. for about 20 years at Bayson Heat Treating in London, Canada. Take Five Audio used to have all their stuff done there (they acquired their own unit a number of years ago and, yes, I do believe they did that and cryo treat the stuff they sell as cryo treated) and Audio Sensibility has continued to have all their materials done there, at least until very recently when Bayson has experienced troubles with their unit. I'm hoping they can fix it and get it back up and running. 

Over the years I've had lots of stuff come out of the unit with Steve's (Audio Sensibility) and Gene's (Take Five Audio) stuff. 

Lots of things break while cryo treating.

I've never been a fan of cryo.  If you want nothing to change, cool it to cryo temps.  Physics has never provided a basis for it working on anything.  I've also been in several other hobbies where it is touted as a cure all.  Never seen a difference.

that said, I occasionally buy cryo treated stuff if there is no upcharge and it is otherwise a good product, such as ice age cables, a good quality low cost cable.

Jerry

@erik_squires labs can test what material, how it was cast, and then treated and provide a report. Can’t remember who, but someone did this with the SKW cables on Amazon, supposedly OCC, turns out that they were not.

but most people on this forum don’t believe in measurements, so there is that. 

A few years ago I had a pair of cary audio cad 1610se amps, the main tubes being KR 1610’s. I had a problem that the main tubes were dying after a couple of hundred hours. I got in contact with KR and they suggested proving a paid that had been cryp treated. I had no further issues. (Sold the amps a few years later so can’t comment on if they’re still going but they had maybe 500 hrs at sale.