A Story about a Defective Signature Platinum


Last week I was listening to music at a healthy volume while sitting at my computer. I have an auto lifter (Little Fwend) and after the arm lifted I noticed a static noise with occasional popping coming out of the left channel about 40 dB down. At first I thought it was a bad tube but it disappeared when I turned the volume down. It is in front of the Preamp. None of the other sources had the noise. Swapping tonearm cables did not seem to change the sound but then I noticed that the sound was also in the right channel just farther down. Disconnecting the tonearm stopped the noise. I change over to an MC Diamond, no noise. Same with the Atlas, no noise. Swapped back to the MSL, noise is back.

The cartridge is exactly one year old but it rotates with two other cartridges and might have 75 hours on it. I called the dealer who told me to contact MoFi distribution, the US agent for MSL. Turns out the cartridge only has a 90 day warranty and I was told I would have to send it in for a rebuild for $6000! Can't they just fix the problem for maybe $500, No. Can't I just send it in for evaluation?  The stylus and cantilever are brand new. No, a rebuild is the only option and you have to do that through the dealer, click!  Most very expensive cartridges have a 2 year warranty on them not to mention that most companies would cover such a defect even off warranty as in the absence of physical damage it is obviously a manufacturing defect, a bad solder joint or maybe just two wires rubbing together. This is very disappointing and as far as customer service goes Home Depot is better than MoFi, Sears is better than MoFi! MoFI is right up there with Anthem Blue Cross! The service rep could have offered to look into it. Maybe communicate with MSL and get their opinion. I am sure if MSL knew about it they would gladly fix it and actually be embarrassed. The Japanese are like that. There is no way I can find to get directly in touch with MSL.   

$6000 is not an option. I am not going to throw good money after bad. I am also not going to off a defective cartridge on someone else. I am going to take the cartridge apart and reflow the solder joints and make sure the wires are separated. If that doesn't fix it, it goes in the trash.

Mistakes and defects happen, it is what you do about them that counts. MoFi failed dismally in this regard. MSL makes a fine cartridge but I would only get another one if they changed agents and increased their warranty. Obviously, I will avoid buying any other MoFi products myself and warn others about their customer service. I have no further use for the dealer who did nothing to help. I have had superb service from Musical Surroundings, Soundsmith, B+H Photo and the Cable Company. All handled issues with ease. Has anyone else had trouble with MoFi? What companies have provided you with excellent service when the sh-t hit the fan?

 

 

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@daveyf 

Sure, I went through the dealer and he did not get any further than I did. He is an approved dealer. Warranty is three months and that is it regardless. 

I wish to remind everyone that MoFi is now owned by Music Direct. Since I have so many other reliable options I will not be doing business with either company from now on.

@wrm57 

I have an Atlas SL and it is certainly a wonderful cartridge. I have no doubt given jcars involvement in this forum that Lyra would never do this to one of its customers.  

I opened the MSL up and did not find anything easy to fix, the interior workmanship is beyond reproach however, The shell is rather thin metal and leaves a rather large interior cavity. It does not look this way from the outside. I think the Lyra, Verismo, Van den Hul style of construction makes more sense. 

@mijostyn Depending on what state you live in, warranty laws may be applicable to you as to the minimum lengths acceptable. IOW, even though MD state what they do, you may have legal recourse regardless.

For a company to sell a $11K cartridge with a ninety day warranty is more than weak IMO. Particularly since this cartridge can be bought in Japan for less than half of that amount!!

@daveyf 

I agree. 3 months for an $11,000 cartridge is worse than weak and I believe this policy is being set by Music Direct. My only recourse (NH does not have minimum warranty laws.) Is to let everyone I can know and avoid Music Direct and any of their subsidiaries like the plague. Not knowing the Warranty before I purchased the cartridge is on me. Assumptions are the mother of all F-ups. 

@cleeds 

I sent the cartridge to Steven and we will see what he can do. If he has to rewind the coils he will have to get ahold of the unusually thick wire MSL uses to maintain the low impedance. I'll test it and listen when I get it back. If I do not like it for some reason I'll sell it as a rebuild for a couple of grand. There are two cartridges I have my eye on, The Soundsmith Hyperion and the Grado Epoch. I am very comfortable with Soundsmith's quality and support. I have not had a chance to handle or listen to a recent Grado. My old Statement was fine. I never had to test Grado's support but I have never heard a bad comment. 

mijostyn

I believe this policy is being set by Music Direct. My only recourse ... Is to let everyone I can know and avoid Music Direct and any of their subsidiaries like the plague.

The person who let you down here is your dealer, but you feel warm and fuzzy about him so you’ve let him off the hook. I wouldn’t. You’re his customer, and he should be your advocate with his supplier. Unlike you, the dealer has some clout with the supplier, because he’s the customer. Together, you two could likely navigate this towards a resolution of some sort, even if in the end your dealer could only offer you a generous accommodation on another cartridge at a special price. It's really odd that your dealer is doing nothing for you with this.

I sent the cartridge to Steven and we will see what he can do.

He’s the best. I think you’ll be thrilled with the result.

I never had to test Grado’s support but I have never heard a bad comment.

I sent a Grado RS-1 headphone in for service once with a dead channel. They had one lady who said she did all of the headphone repairs and she was one nasty b*tch. Really, unbelievably rude. I’d never buy another Grado product.

Steve at VAS is very impressive.  I had a  Kuzma Car50 with a dead right channel that he was able to repair rapidly. This did not involve changing the coils but I'm sure some expert micro soldering was involved. Very happy with VAS.  

Hope your MSL cart gets fixed!