@roxy54 - Yeah, I agree if the offer is 30% of the asking price thats ridiculous but I would still make at least one counteroffer to see if I can get the item sold.
@antigrunge2 - there is no "god ordained right" to much anything in this world. haha I'm just trying to find out why people won't negotiate or at least make it clear in the ad by saying "price is firm"