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If you want lame advice DON'T do this!

Have you ever seen a member ask for advice about their system and don't understand why they need to make a change? Mistakes in this hobby are generally expensive. Does a list of components tell you how they sound together as a system? No Does a picture of a room tell you how the system sounds in the room? No. Think about the dollars that have been flushed away because the problem was the room and no matter what you stick in there or how much it cost it won't git er done. A flat in room frequency response is a starting point before changing anything. So, why don't more people post measurements when asking for advice? If you want lame advice DON'T post your system in your profile. If you want good advice post your system and a pic. If you want excellent advice include your in room FR measurements (which almost all modern receivers provide or REW can do for free). 

kota1
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coralkong
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@kota1 

I think this is coming it a bit high.

Sometimes, a flat-line measurement isn't what's best, and I personally don't think someone needs to measure their room to get the best sound. The best measurable response? Possibly. But certainly not the best sound. Different people like different sound types, whether that be a rolled off top end, or a heavy mid response, etc...

Honestly, I'd prefer to tune my room by ear and experimentation. I don't need a graph to know if it sounds good. Actually, I'd prefer NOT to use a program to "figure it out".

Might want to lighten up a bit.

 

 

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onhwy61
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A flat in room frequency response at the listening position is NOT what you want.  You want a smooth frequency response with a rolled off treble.  Exactly how much roll off and the break frequency is up to personal preference.  Equally as important are time decay issues.

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roxy54
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@kota1 

Thank you for your response regarding receivers. I was thrown off when you mentioned that word because I don't use an AV receiver, and I thought that you might have meant something else.

Moving on, in the thread that you referenced, I was not asking for advice, I was asking for the opinions of other members, and what their experiences were. We all have our own ways of measuring, and I do it with experimentation and with my ears.

I see that you have a lot of threads and posts for someone who has been a member for such a short time. I don't know if it's your intention to stay here for a long time and build relationships with other members but if that is your plan, I would suggest a change of attitude..

kota1 OP
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@roxy54 

We all have our own ways of measuring, and I do it with experimentation and with my ears.

That's the final step in calibrating your room. If it doesn't please your ears no point right?

In recording studios they have standards, rooms are calibrated. Professional installers use standards that are known to reproduce what the engineer heard in the studio. It saves time and money.

This gets me back to my OP, how can someone advise me on a system change when they don't know how my current setup interacts with my room? Changes cost money and I am all for using your ears and experimentation AFTER the room is calibrated.

kota1 OP
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@onhwy61 

Equally as important are time decay issues.

+1, decay times should be .2 to .4 seconds. There is some good info on how to achieve that in this video at the :32 mark. The hard math they use to  calculate it follows and the short cut (which I followed to the T) to get it right in your room is at the :43 mark:

https://www.youtube.com/live/G0ekssXX7rE?feature=share

 

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