The mistake armchair speaker snobs make too often


Recently read the comments, briefly, on the Stereophile review of a very interesting speaker. I say it’s interesting because the designers put together two brands I really like together: Mundorf and Scanspeak. I use the same brands in my living room and love the results.

Unfortunately, using off-the-shelf drivers, no matter how well performing, immediately gets arm chair speaker critics, who can’t actually build speakers themselves, and wouldn’t like it if they could, trying to evaluate the speaker based on parts.

First, these critics are 100% never actually going to make a pair of speakers. They only buy name brands. Next, they don’t get how expensive it is to run a retail business.

A speaker maker has to sell a pair of speakers for at least 10x what the drivers cost. I’m sorry but the math of getting a speaker out the door, and getting a retailer to make space for it, plus service overhead, yada yada, means you simply cannot sell a speaker for parts cost. Same for everything on earth.

The last mistake, and this is a doozy, is that the same critics who insist on only custom, in-house drivers, are paying for even cheaper drivers!

I hope you are all sitting down, but big speaker brand names who make their drivers 100% in house sell the speakers for 20x or more of the actual driver cost.

Why do these same speaker snobs keep their mouth shut about name brands but try to take apart small time, efficient builders? Because they can.  The biggest advantage that in-house drivers gives you is that the riff raft ( this is a joke on an old A'gon post which misspelled riff raff) stays silent.  If you are sitting there pricing speakers out on parts cost, shut up and build something, then go sell it.

erik_squires

@soix

 

The high priest of chasing his own tail couldn't hold a thought long enough to do the math.

@tomcy6  It's getting harder and harder.

I hope they sell a lot of speakers despite the arm chair dorks.

Me too, the price is reasonable and the cabinet execution top notch.  I heard that tweeter with a ceramic mid-woofer, an attempt to build a kit with all German parts, and I really did not like the mid-woofer.   I adore the Scanspeak sliced paper cones though.  I have yet to hear anything significantly better.

Many of the better speaker designer/manufacturers have been at it for quite a while.  In most cases, it is not their first rodeo.  They learn stuff along the way and use their cumulative knowledge to create something special.  Those who have been at it for years probably have (more than?) a few duds in their stable that ended up being learning experiences.  It is nowhere near as simple as buying good drivers and stuffing them in a box.

 They learn stuff along the way and use their cumulative knowledge to create something special.

This is why I prefer to use active speakers that are actually bundled systems, let the designer use his budget to make the mistakes and I will just buy the end result of that cumulative knowledge.