Ref 6SE. Tube dampers


Well I first want to say thank you for all those who gave their opinions about my last post about tube micophonics / tube dampers for my Audio Research REF 750s. This question is for my Audio Research REF 6SE about tube dampers. I am looking into purchasing and upgrading the stock dampers with the Herbies tube Ultrasonic RX dampers for my 6 - 6H30 tubes in the gain stage and adding the HALO-111 stabilizer damper to the 6H30 and 6550 for the power supply. My question is would this be beneficial to add tube dampers to the power supply tubes on a pre amp ? I really read a lot of great things about Herbies tube dampers, but nothing really on the power supply tubes. BTW Audio Research does not use dampers on the power supply tubes. Thanks

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I own both an ARC Ref40 and a Ref10Phono.  I switched from the stock silicone (?) tube dampers. Am now using HAL-O IIIs on both the 6H30s and 6550s.  The improvement in presence and reduction of very fine veiling surprised me.  I did this in stages and each step was a little better. Just bought some more. I put them  them on the PS first. You'll be happy with this. The PS IS in the signal path!

@barrysandy   I bought 6 Ultra sonic RX for my signal tubes. (6) for my Audio Research REF 6SE. It has a very unnatural high treble in most of my CDs. I will be returning them. 

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Thanks for your comments. Anyone else. I have all Audio Research components. My attitude to them has been, they supply tube dampeners, so they probably thought it through… but if there is are lots of folks that have experienced improvement I may be enticed into trying them. 

@tattooedtrackman best way to find out is to try. When I had ARC preamps I used Herbie’s ultrasonic ss dampers on signal tubes. They didn’t hurt but I don’t recall an improvement either. As long as you have good quality tubes that are low microphonics, I wouldn’t bother with dampers. But… I never tried dampers on power tubes.
I’m also not a fan of vibration control and isolation devices. All I was ever able to achieve with these gadgets in my system was colder and dryer sound with limited dynamics (IsoAcoustics, Herbie’s, Nob Sound springs). Exception was using the springs under the power conditioner
As long as your components are on the solid rack, that’s all that’s needed.
YMMV