If the DAC is the same, how different do CD transports sound?


One interesting topic of discussion here is how audible the differences are between CD players when they are used as transports only — or when they are only transports to begin with.

In other words, in a comparison which keeps the DAC the same, how much difference can be heard between CD transports?

This recent video by Harley Lovegrove of Pearl Acoustics provides one test of this question. It may not be the ultimate test, but he does describe the experimental conditions and informations about the qualifications of the listeners.

He comes to the main conclusion here: https://youtu.be/TAOLGsS27R0?t=1079

The whole video is worth watching, I think.

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They should be very similar.   You've hit on a key point.  The main difference in the sound between CD players is the relatively cheap onboard DAC that each uses.  Eliminate the DAC and now you've eliminated most of the variance.

So it comes down to which CD transport drops the most bits and introduces the most jitter.   Good CD transports should do very little of either so it should be hard to tell them apart.

Jerry

@jasonbourne71 If you watch the video first, you won't need to say "Only a blind listening test to eliminate sighted bias and matched output voltage levels has any validity. Anything else is anecdotal!"

 

 

@audphile1

there’s a difference between CD transports. Higher end transports use better quality parts, better power supplies as well as better chassis and dampening. This results in improved sound quality.

That was my assumption going in. I think that was the assumption of Mr. Lovegrove. It was not borne out in this test. That’s interesting to me because it helps strengthens the argument for optimizing a CD-DAC combo by putting most of one's time, energy, and money into the DAC. This does not mean get a bad CD player. And this was a point I believe @jjss49 made on another thread, and now we have a video about this same topic.

The DAC will make the most difference. In my experience.
With a caveat…you must use a decent CDT…something like the units I mentioned above. Don’t waste money on a good dac if you plan to drive it with a $99 universal player from early 2000s. Just like anything else in this hobby, you can get by but to realize a full potential of any given component the rest of your system must be on the level. 
 

I posted this on another thread :

Transports are not all the same SQ wise and will either hold back or release the potential of the DAC.

 

I'll further add, it's not about bling , expectation bias, status ranking, and the rest of the  commentary.  It's about the resulting SQ. Try them firsthand and decide for yourself .