Soundstage Heresy IV and Forte IV


I am interested in understanding the difference in soundstage between Heresy IV and Forte IV and the reasons for the difference.

Bass I can get, but concerning soundstage, what is causing the difference?

I hear that Forte soundstage is better than Heresy, but I also hear that the Cornwall soundstage is better than Forte. Arent Cornwall and Heresy using the same mid and tweeter components? Then why would Forte have better soundstage than Heresy?

128x128tonydennison

H4's are fantastic. Amazing how many haters there are. I imagine these people dont know how to set up or never heard them or atleast not broken in and set up.

I initially was really impressed with the improvements done to the Heresy IVs...lower frequency range (58hz to 48hz), cool ports, better internal wire (AQ), better bolt and nut speaker attachment instead of wood screws, better speaker binding posts, etc. Their  fit and finish is superb. The new base looks cool also, although you can't dust under it (might not need to). I had them for a couple of months of break-in so I doubt that was the issue. I listen to a lot of piano music, and certain mid-high frequencies would jump out weirdly and harsh my mellow. The IVs simply didn't deliver the coherency from top to bottom I was used to with the IIIs. I tried swapping out the preamp, different amps, anything I could think of and when I put the IIIs back in it was a revelation...the IIIs just work for me. Maybe over time the IVs would have gotten better, or maybe it was just that pair, but I sold 'em at a very small loss and I assume the next guy liked 'em. Who knows?  I simply assumed the new polyamide "non throated" mid was the culprit as that's a complete redesign from the IIIs. I'll call Roy Delgado...now where did I put his number...damn...

@wolf_garcia 

I know what you mean and it does get better. That ovephisized upper mid cleared up for me just recently. Some audio things go through several changes during a long breakin period...in my experience.

 

T

@tonydennison 

How long did the break-in take? I simply couldn't stand that sound over 2 months, but the good news is that the IIIs with the subs and amps I use are so damn good that the only reason I'd replace them is simple curiosity...Heresy speakers are seriously underrated in my book, and sort of a bargain really.