JBL 4367 = Sleep Denervation
I am having a real problem created by the JBL 4367… I can’t stop listening to them. I have been up late (2:00am-3:00am) every night this week and can’t seem to turn them off. I found an extremely good deal on a new pair and bought these blind. They might not even be broken in yet and honestly I am completely blown away. Had/have what I would consider a very good system but nothing too crazy (Revel/Mcintosh/JL, pictures in my profile) and this is a big step change improvement.
The texture in the bass is much better than my JL E112 subs. Enough so that I have lowered the hi-pass frequency to 40hz. The highs are the most delineated I have heard. Where other good speakers shimmer, on the 4367 you hear the actual ride and subtle move of the high hat. I have never heard anything like it. The mids are clear like the Revels but seem to bring a sense of power. Everything just has a real feel to it with amazing texture and tone. There is texture in the bass I have only ever heard on headphones or large super speakers. The soundstage is big and stable, actually extremely stable. I hear no box or driver resonances of any kind.
Best of all even standard recording music sounds good. Old grunge, metal , 60s classics, 80s pop is good, modern computer-generated music, it all sounds good. Average recordings have dynamics that did not seem to be there before and audiophile music just explodes out of the speaker. While audio memory is short and it is impossible to know I would go as far to say this is the best speaker I have heard for my tastes in sound. I am struggling to come up with anything I dislike in the sound (now we could talk about the looks lol, and why is it so short?!?)
This is best system change I have ever made. If you have been curious about this speaker don’t wait and give it a try. If you are looking at more expensive speakers maybe give the JBL 4367 a try first and “save” some money.
Mijostyn, I have looked at the miniDSP SHD. It is much cheaper than other options. Do you feel there is any resolution loss with it? Think the output stage is good enough? It complicates my home theater pass through as I would have to use the analog input. I am currently highpassing at 60hz. 24db slope on both sides. |
As mentioned in a different thread, I’m using the 2269H drivers that we know are used in the SUB18 cabinets. They are musical and very enjoyable; not just air moving pro audio speakers. My cabinets mimic the SUB18 cabinet volume.
@mijostyn writes: “Adding subwoofers to a system is not only to add more low end, it is also to lower distortion in the main speaker. With these speakers a minimum of two 12" subs is required and you have to use a high pass filter on the main amplifier, a full two way crossover. Digital is best. Crossover at 80 Hz. Do this and you will take your system a large step forward.” - I fully agree with these statements! I am using McIntosh’s MEN220 for my subwoofer crossover and also use the room correction software to remove a node in my room. It’s a nice unit. Marchand makes great analog crossovers for reasonable prices. The JL Audio CR-1 is very nice and the SPL crossover looks to be exceptional as well. I also feel there is “no replacement for displacement” and while spousal approval is low for such a concept in living spaces, if you really want a system to “hit”, decent cabinet volumes are helpful. This may be one of the reasons (of many) you are experiencing exciting audio with the addition of the 4367’s. I experienced a large upgrade in low frequency response when I ditched the JBL ASB7118 cabinets in favor of the custom cabinets I had built by Joe at Stewart Speaker Systems. The stock ‘7118 cabinets were too small and tuned for a “rock box” type sound. The far larger cabinets that mimic the dimensions of the SUB18 are just right. Flat response and musical in sound. Adding JBL paper cone 18” subs with the accordion surrounds would be great synergy with your 4367’s that use identical woofer construction. I’m a firm believer in synergy between all drivers in a system and maybe that could be some of the dissatisfaction with the JL Audio subs you are experiencing. All JBL drivers in the sizes of 18” to 15” to Horn just seems right to me and I think you’d really have sleep deprivation if you added nice subs, an appropriate outboard crossover and power amp to your system in your nice room. That would be a, pardon my French, effing unbelievable experience even over what you are enjoying now. Thanks for letting me ramble! What a fun journey! |
It's funny in this thread I just saw and commented on the systems of @jheppe815 @ditusa and @james633 well done gentlemen one and all. 😎 |
@jond - Thanks for the kind words on my system! It’s appreciated! It was a heck of a journey with lots of experimentation and improvement as I went. |
Jheppe815,
thanks for the input. I will buy something this year (still saving for now). I agree that the JBL SUB18 or equivalent would probably be the best option and I may go that rout. They are pretty huge but I have the room (anything goes in the basement). It gets pricier needing external amps. Not to mention a bit more clutter. there is almost no information comparing these very large subs other than home theater applications and I don’t trust those opinions as their wants are far different from mine. It is hard to say how something like the SUB18 compare to the JTR captivators which also measures well. |
