dac and streamer or seperates


Want to spend about 5k

System right now is a Krell S-300  love it!

B&W 804's  love them too

Well treated medium sized room.

but I'm using the built in streamer and dac.  

I would like to take my streaming to the next level.

At 5k would you go separate DAC and Separate Streamer or all in one?

128x128asmithkash

I would recommend separates but in this price range I would go with one unit.  Check out Lumin as they are a great value and provide versatility as well as the ability to isolate features later on should you want to upgrade.  Initially I used my T3 as a dac and streamer then upgraded my dac and used it to stream. Also Lumin is great choice if you choose to use Roon. 

Here’s a different approach - get BOTH a DAC/streamer combo and then find. Streamer separate. Keep your eyes out for a Modwright-modded Cambridge CXN V2 on the used market. This unit has a streamer and DAC built in, Dan Wright overhauls the analog stage with a tubes and quality lundahl transformers while installing robust linear power supplies for each the analog and digital sections. It can be found from time to time for $2K or so on the used market. You can use the built in streamer for a while until you settle on a better one. On its own it will best most other separates in the $7-10K range. You can then take the time to find the best streamer for your budget, or save more for an even better one. Used Aurender units will get you really far. Lumin is in pretty good for the money as well. 

I'm in the minority, but my preference was a single box DAC/streamer.  Hardcore audiophiles usually prefer separates all around, but my thinking is the one box units have a better matched streamer, DAC and power supply.  I would also think better bang-for-the-buck as it's one chassis and no extra cable to buy.  I don't do upgrades frequently, but I can upgrade the streamer or DAC at a later date with digital inputs/outputs on the chassis.  I chose the Cary DMS-700 which would fall in your price range if bought used or the DMS-650 new would be in your range.

mgrif104

I listen to rock, a bit of country, and some pop, but that is usually with friends.

I love a huge deep soundstage and vocals that hit you like the artist is there with you.  love vinyl btw if that helps.  

 

vonhelmholtz

I believe the 300i came out in 2019.  It's a great piece. has a built in streamer and dac

 

thanks for all the help guys!  It looks like separates are the majority opinion.  Upscale is having a big sale.  I believe they carry aurender, aurilac, and lumin. 

Should we fight about which is the best streamer company?  maybe spend 2k on a streamer and 3k on a dac?  used is fine too.