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Do NOT Blow Your Entire Budget on Two Channel Audio

Yes, two channel audio is here, and is not going away. However, object based audio is delightful, widely available on Tidal and Apple Music, and should be in the listening room of every music lover on the planet, not just "audiophiles. If you plan to be a music fan a year from now start building your object based audio system today. You will need:

1) A receiver/processor capable of Dolby Atmos.

2) A subscription to Tidal or Apple music.

3) A Firestick, ATV, or Nvidia Shield.

4) A minimum of 7 timber matched speakers and a subwoofer.

Once you experienced stereo would you ever go back to only mono? No, you would build a system capable of either mono or stereo. Now that object based audio has arrived do the same thing. Build a system capable of mono, stereo, AND object based audio. When Elton John heard Rocket Man in an object based format for the first time why did he demand to convert his entire catalog to Atmos? If you don’t know, then you need to go listen to Rocket Man in a good Atmos setup ASAP.

So, take your budget, DIVERSIFY, and get a good Atmos capable receiver or processor. Object based audio is NOT last decades surround sound or home theater. It is for MUSIC first, if you need a recommendation on how to allocate your budget feel free to post a question. Most importantly, you don’t NEED two systems, one for music and one for movies. A good object based audio system can play two channel music just fine. A two channel system on the other hand can’t play object based audio without a proper processor or receiver.

Greg Penny talks mixing Rocket Man in Atmos.

https://youtu.be/ggzfcUKDqdo?feature=shared

 

kota1
kennyc
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This is a head scratcher. The OP is trying to convince us to spend significant time and resources on “immersion” to audiophiles interested in “higher fidelity”, 2 completely different targets and experiences that is not related besides both being in audio. I like driving my car which doesn’t mean I’d be willing to put time and effort into drifting, drag racing, etc.

Many moons ago during my partying days, a bit of alcohol, flashing lights, loud music, on a disco dance floor - “immersion”.

In my main system, I’m after a clear window - neutral, linear. I want to hear a piano sound like a real live piano which is difficult to reproduce. I want to hear crystalline highs, a deep articulate bass, etc.  My second system is high efficiency for flea watt amplifiers to hear that midrange magic. My goal as with most audiophiles is “fidelity” - better sonics than offered in the mainstream market.

Seems either the OP is disconnected/oblivious with what audiophiles seek or simply a troll. With over 2k postings the first possibility seems unlikely so…

I also highly expect the OP is trying to make himself “feel better” that he chose immersion over fidelity likely because of his unwillingness to pursue audiophile goals which can be costly.

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deep_333
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Global sales of vinyl, CDs and other physical formats increased 4% in 2022, accounting for $4.6 billion of the $26.2 billion worldwide music market,

Physical media accounts for ONLY 17.5% of the worldwide music market? That is not exactly exciting news.

 

@kota1 Personally, i wouldn’t just stream tidal/qobuz, etc, i.e. rent music and call it good. For example, I use my Qobuz subscription to discover new music. But, any album i discover/like, I buy it off Qobuz for permanent ownership. The Qobuz sublime subscription gives you 50 to 60% on so many hires official studio masters and it can be had for 7 or 8 bucks a pop. A freaking steal is what it is...😁 when you consider how much vinyl or a cd costs. Vinyl plastic dudes will want that pristine sounding official studio master botched so they can press it on vinyl and spin it. CD dudes may do the same with their redbook CDs. The latter is a stupid thing to do (as you can imagine), when you can have the unbotched official studio masters for way cheaper these days. But, ya can’t ever fix the the dummins (no point in saying anything at all).

Anyways, I download these hires masters, keep them in my NAS and permanently own them!! I like it that way!!

 

kota1 OP
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@kennyc 

When I read your post I don't know what your system is, what experience you have with object based audio, nada. I get that you seem to feel a budget of 100% channel based audio and 0 to object based audio is how you roll. It is your money, good luck with whatever it is you are pursuing.

kota1 OP
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@deep_333

You have an excellent, excellent point!

But, any album i discover/like, I buy it off Qobuz for permanent ownership.

You are right for so many different reasons but first of all is quality. I built a media server last year using a NAS and have been filling it with ripped bluerays of all ttpes, concerts, movies, atmos, DD,DTS, etc. I started a thread here asking for ways to buy ripped music on thumb drives, hard drives, etc. My atmos blueray of Rober Waters the Wall and Kraftwerl 3D: The Concert blow away any streamed content you can get. I have my ripped music files on it too.

The Qobuz sublime subscription gives you 50 to 60% on so many hires official studio masters and it can be had for 7 or 8 bucks a pop.

I tried Quboz years ago abd it sounded bright to me, maybe its time to try again, thanks.

Anyways, I download these hires masters, keep them in my NAS and permanently own them!! I like it that way!!

Totally agree, I found an incredible bang for the buck media player by Zidoo on Amazon called the Pro10. This is the same company that makes the Eversolo streamers. They have released a new one for about a grand and I am contemplating pulling the trigger, check out:

https://www.zidoo.tv/Product/index/model/UHD5000/target/SGlS2hlXYyJKKmVViAFMcQ%3D%3D.html

 

 

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