Do NOT Blow Your Entire Budget on Two Channel Audio

You are right about 3-D holography being more stupendous than stereo...But using based objects audio as atmos is very different than using BACCH filters...

I will stay with 2 speakers and this is why i favored the most natural approach by BACCH filters... way less costlier too...And natural because by mathematical acoustic priciple there is no timbre degradation when playing recorded original acoustic of any stereo albums through our stereo system with the BACCH ...

3-D acoustic dont need many speakers and any other DSP than BACCH filters...

@invalid

re " When you listen to live music, the musicians are in front of you, not all around you. Sounds like a gatekeeping money grab to me."

That is just a practical limitation of delivering live music to an audience.

But why do we have to be limited to that when Atmos can put us sitting in the midst of a String quartet.

Not a gimmick, a paradigm shift !

oliver_reid

... Atmos can put us sitting in the midst of a String quartet. Not a gimmick, a paradigm shift !

No, it’s a gimmick, and a tired, old one at that. In the early days of two-channel stereo, there were demo records with people playing ping-pong and trains that roared from one end of the room to the other. Some bands such as the Beatles made "stereo" albums with the vocals on one side and the instruments on the other. Immersive? Paradigm shift?

Then came quad with SQ, QS, CD-4 and discrete. Instruments could be made to swirl around you. You could be in the middle of a string quartet! Immersive? Paradigm shift?

Nope, just a gimmick that few people wanted. But I get that the OP is obsessed with "object based audio" so I hope he leaves room in his budget for some objects that will help add excitement to his experience. He should certainly have a few of these, perhaps one for each speaker:

This is a head scratcher. The OP is trying to convince us to spend significant time and resources on “immersion” to audiophiles interested in “higher fidelity”, 2 completely different targets and experiences that is not related besides both being in audio. I like driving my car which doesn’t mean I’d be willing to put time and effort into drifting, drag racing, etc.

@kennyc

You seem to be content with your stereo (a 90 year old technology), no problem there.

But, some technological advancement from the very smart guys at Dolby, DTS, Sony, Yamaha, etc offered the potential to create high fidelity multichannel/object based/immersive rigs starting around 2014. There are significant costs and a learning curve associated with putting together such a high fidelity rig. It is very very different from the barrel bottom receivers and sht speakers popped into ceilings, which is typically associated with immersive audio in purist stereo circles. But, once, you hear the former, it is hard to unhear it.

For some of us, life is short and we like to experience things like that before the finite lifespan ends.

It is not really a question of finances these days because i know a lot of guys who will drop 80k on a truck clean and easy ( i.e. for a chunk of metal on wheels that will take a guy from point a to point b, whoop di doo). I’ll nix the 80k for a goofyass truck and spend it on such a rig...makes me happier...( different priorities)

We dont live in the same budget... 😊

Will you also spend 80,000 on the musical albums?

I did if i count all my life spending on music... But my audio expanse are nowhere near that and i dont need more than 1000 bucks to assemble a top system for my needs.. My acoustic homemade room cost me nothing... And as i already said atmos and other dsp are not an acoustic revolution in music listening , BACCH filters are...Because even if it is compatible with atmos it is stereo based anyway as all albums i listened to recorded in stereo...

All this opinionated discussion is on shaky acoustic ground... Because no one dare to read Dr, Choueri explanation...  Stereo is enough with BACCH filters , and if someone had atmos he can use BACCH filters to improve it...

 The only acoustic revolution is BACCH filters... inform yourself... Atmos or stereo is not the problem AT ALL...

It is not really a question of finances these days because i know a lot of guys who will drop 80k on a truck clean and easy ( i.e. for a chunk of metal on wheels that will take a guy from point a to point b, whoop di doo). I’ll nix the 80k for a goofyass truck and spend it on such a rig...makes me happier...( different priorities)