Class D amplifiers. What's the future look like?


I have a number of amplifiers: Luxman C900U, Bryston 4BSST2, Audio Research VSI 60 Integrated, NAD C298 and some other less noteworthy units. As I swap them in and out of my main system, I've come to the conclusion my very modest NAD C298 is about all I really need. Granted if I had extremely hard to drive speakers, I might be better with the Bryston or Luxman, but driving my Harbeth 40.2 speakers, the NAD is just fine. 

I thought a while ago that class D would quickly overtake amplifier design type mainly due to profit margin which I think would be much greater than A/B and tube. I'm not saying the other design styles would go away, just that D would be the most common style. 

Clearly my prediction is not panning out, at least in the mid and high-end audio world and I'm wondering why? It seems companies such as Bryston, Luxman, McIntosh, Hegel and so many others are sticking by A/B. I'm no "golden ears" guy, but is the perceived sound issue(weather real or imaginary) still holding D back? Maybe my assumption of profit margin is not correct? Maybe the amplifier manufacturers are experimenting with D, but keeping tight lipped until release? Perhaps brand loyalists don't want change similar to what happened with "new coke". What else am I missing?

 

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What?  A tube manufacturer and dealer comes on to a thread about "What's the FUTURE of class D".....and puts down ALL class d amps without even mentioning what he has heard and specific A/B tests.  Then he tells us all the cool stuff he has and then invites us to come and listen.  He might as well pay for an ad on the side of the thread.  His post has NOTHING to do with the thread and adds nothing to what it is being talked about.  Just an ad.  I have nothing against advertising......but to come on here with clearly an intent to sell and add nothing?  Where is the LOVE?  Do you really care about the future of class D?  Obviously not.  Do you care about people who like class D.....obviously not.  Do you care about making money?  Obviously.  

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What? A tube manufacturer and dealer comes on to a thread about "What’s the FUTURE of class D".....and puts down ALL class d amps without even mentioning what he has heard and specific A/B tests. Then he tells us all the cool stuff he has and then invites us to come and listen. He might as well pay for an ad on the side of the thread. His post has NOTHING to do with the thread and adds nothing to what it is being talked about. Just an ad. I have nothing against advertising......but to come on here with clearly an intent to sell and add nothing? Where is the LOVE? Do you really care about the future of class D? Obviously not. Do you care about people who like class D.....obviously not. Do you care about making money? Obviously.

 

1 page before that, another tube manufacturer who rose to fame selling decent tube gear for the past few decades has gotten into class D recently/apparently. Now, he wants to peddle it, make waves with it and thinks everyone would drop the sweet things they’ve got and get on his Class D bandwagon.

Most threads on this forum are steered by dudes with financial interests, typically a) manufacturers b) dealers incognito and c) their incognito/paid pied pipers, i.e. the ones who pretend to be genuine flipping customers jawdropped/blissed out by some product apparently. Everyone is required to know his bliss now apparently!! and he shall not rest until then!!! (whoop di doo). It isn’t about music or genuine end-users helping others.

If these guys are so desperate to grow their market share, beat down their competitors, boost profits, etc they should quit yapping with the same old sticks in the mud around here (who’ve been around the block and rarely change their conclusions about anything). If they were smart, they would go peddle on reddit or other AV forums. Go and grab some younger guys into general AV, computing, gaming, etc sitting around with significant chunks of cash. These are the type of guys who love music, but, sit around with awful sounding lifestyle audio gear (Bose, Sonos, soundbars, whatever). They simply don’t know any better. There is a big market share out there....and these guys could send their pied pipers to those forums for a bit so it isn’t the same ol’ crap over and over all day long around here. It doesn’t take more than half a wit to see all through this crap.

I dont think attacking people good faith is a good idea...

And atmasphere is certainly not a "peddler" here...

I say that and i am not his customer and will not be probably because so much i want to try my wallet will say no and anyway i am happy totally with my minimal acoustic satisfaction threshold ...

I say it because atmasphere help people with very wise and knowleadgeable posts i like much to read attentively and he dont need to sell anything here to make a living ... He is an engineer not a seller...And i am a grown up perfectly able to detect back thoughts and bad faith ...

And the same is valid for any guest new people here... We all have our opinions and are free to express it, customers or even sellers or engineer, i hate censorship and ban appeal arbitrarily proposed by ego motivation ...

And the lost of some knowledgeable members is too much , better to loose some less knowleadgeable others as myself or anyone else ...😁

Sorry if i offend some...

No ad hominem attack  this must be a rule... Arguments only matter for the discussion...