Discuss The Viv Lab Rigid Arm


I am trying to do my due diligence about this arm. I am just having a hard time getting my head around this idea of zero overhang and no offset. Does this arm really work the way it is reported to do?

neonknight
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@lewm : Please don’t misunderstood my words. I posted that I’m trying to understand/figure out or look a " rational " explanation to know why you like it, not other gentlemans but you. I’m not trying to diminish your self capacities or your system, I really trust in you and that’s why I’m following posting in the thread

At this moment my take is simple: the cartridge does not knows what it’s tracking does not knows ( and does not cares. ) about that angle " error ". What is doing is just tracking the LPs groove modulations and that it’s doing with no audible distortions. Audiophiles like me are questioning that high tracking angle error and yes it’s a high angle error against an Löfgren A/B alignment but here we have a way different kind of alignment that necessary will produce a special/different kind of quality sound levels a sound NEW for you and other VIV owners. So you are listen to a total  NEW experience ( I could say new " LPs " ) and I believe you when you said that like you.

New LPs because it's your first time to listen those modulations with different angle stylus tip tracking as what you and many of us are accustomed to listen our LPs.

That different TAE in the VIV is big ( vs normal alignments. ) but seems not big enough to cause mistracking or audible distortions, the cartridge tracking capacities ( yours and others. ) have no problem to track almost all LP’s groove modulations mounted in the VIV.

Yes still untruer to the recording but if we have not audible higher tracking distortions and or you don't detect yet that are " missing " tiny kind of signal recorded information then ( as alwaYS ) IS A PERSONAL CHOICE.

Could be a good thing to calculate the VIV tracking distortion levels.

 

In this alignment subject I'm orthodox/dogmatic due that my main target is to stay truer to the recording, so till today no VIV for me. If I want it to " improve "/change the LPs colorations I'm accustom too then I will follow the @mijostyn  example/experience adding a digital processor/Eq. to my system that I'm not yet willing to do it.

 

R.

 

@rauliruegas 

Hold on Raul. I do not use a processor to correct colorations in the recording. I use a processor to correct amplitude and timing problems with my system and room, plus using it for crossovers. The was a time when I has a specific target curve to minimize sibilance in some recordings but since I have moved to the Sound Labs I never use it. Once the system is set up I never change anything unless something changes like a new amp of my wife moving the sofa. Once you know what you are doing (took me 5 years to figure it out) it is a set it and forget it issue. Now, I have a new processor coming, the DEQX Pre 8 and I am going to add another amp to drive the SL's high frequency transformer, probably the Bricasti M25. So, there will be a period if instability until I figure it all out.

Raul, I over-reacted to your earlier remark. We’re all here to learn. And as I’ve said, I am in no position to make a final judgement except to say the Viv has no glaring audible issues compared to the conventional pivoted tonearms I own.

All the learning that can be had in relation to the audible experience being encountered when using the 'Viv' is very well documented across a variety of forums.

Any descriptions using Math to attempt to make the reported on Positive Experiences more understandable, is going to be real uphill climb.

Why not spare oneself the effort, and relish in the audible qualities that are without doubt, quite discernable.