Discuss The Viv Lab Rigid Arm


I am trying to do my due diligence about this arm. I am just having a hard time getting my head around this idea of zero overhang and no offset. Does this arm really work the way it is reported to do?

neonknight

@lewm  and dear friends: Maybe many VIV owners not even who is J.Ellison and they need to find out that information.

 

Now, . Ellison posted in your link about the underhung Yamaha yonearm in the thread you started there, so it's an answer that he gave to you:

 

" The Yamaha straight arm is absurd. "

 

 He posted too something that I posted several time about my personal targets:

 

" I don't really care what it sounds like. I care only how it measures.

In other words, I want an audio system that will accurately reproduce the sound of the master tape. If additional distortion improves the listening experience, then I want that distortion added to the master tape. I don't want my audio system to add distortion.  "

 

His last statement/sentence  is my target but all what he said is just a true fact for people as mijos or me.

 

An his last post in that thread in different words is something I already posted here and from year now in several threads:

 

" I firmly believe that the people who prefer vinyl also prefer distortion.

It's really quite simple. If you have a reference recording and you make a vinyl copy of it that sounds different from the original, the difference is a result of distortion. We all know that vinyl sounds different because something can't sound better than something else unless it also sounds different.

I've made hundreds of measurements of vinyl test records and I know that the vinyl format produces significant measurable distortion. Therefore, I have no doubt that I'm listening to distortion when I listen to vinyl. That's what gives vinyl its distinctive sound quality.

Best regards,  "

 

Btw, that's why we " say " ( not me )  that vinyl has superiority to digital when it's theother way around. No pun intented.

 

lew, I really appreciated your link because that gentleman confirmed several of my posted believes in this forum.

 

R.

 

I am as familiar with JE's views as I am with yours.  Why can't you just go your own way, with my blessings, and know that there are other humans who think differently, on many matters related to audio, at least?  Like JE, you are replacing my comparison of the Viv tonearm to other conventional pivoted tonearms with a comparison of vinyl to digital.  I certainly readily concede that vinyl has more of various distortions than digital.  Happy?  Further, JE is calculating "distortion" using formulae that incorporate TAE as a determining parameter of distortion.  This is what is called a tautology.  Of course, if you make TAE a factor in the equation for distortion, then you will be finding that the more TAE, the more distortion. Like I also wrote above, in an earlier post, JE admitted that he liked the SQ of the RS Labs tonearm, based on LISTENING to it. 

Btw, I know for sure that you as @mijostyn  , me and some other gentlemans just do not like to add distortions in any way and nowhere our room/systems.

 

I posted several times and I 'm sure that at least one time you read what I posted:

 

" the name of the MUSIC/sound is to put at minimum any kind of distortons developed by our room/system: this is my main target that even what I posted several times too: nearer to the recording target.

 

R.

@lewm ​​@rauliruegas 

Vinyl has emotional and sentimental ties to the past. It is also a lot of fun. For most people digital is rather boring and they assume it is lifeless. Great digital recordings are stunning and once you get into digital signal processing and all it has to offer the fun is also restored. 

I may have to withdraw my statement that JE listened to an RS Labs tonearm and mentioned it sounded good.  I cannot find the post on VA. Thought I saw it yesterday.  John did acknowledge that the RS Labs has many fans; that's all I can find right now.  Sorry, John, if you are out there, which I doubt.