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Counterfeit Chinese Cables

I thought that I would write this for those who are curious about one of the many counterfeit Chinese interconnect cables that are available these days. I know that there have been threads about the subject before, and I was always curious because they seem to be such a bargain. I don't really recall much about what any members actually said about the performance of these counterfeit cables, and I didn't look back and do any research, but a couple of months ago there was a thread that came around to discussing the quality of Chinese made components, and oldhvymec said something that made sense to me.

He said that people that say that what they are making is junk should consider that much of what is in our gear, and a lot of our American brands are actually manufactured there. I decided shortly after that that I would take the chance on a set of interconnects, because I suspected that the interconnects going from my pre to my amp were the weak link and needed upgrading. The interconnects going from my DAC to my pre were Kimber Select which are very good, but the other set were LAT International (now defunct) which had cost $500.00 when new, but I had reason to believe they were lacking because I have one of their digital cables that turned out to be very poor sounding in comparison to others I own.

I decided on a one meter pair of counterfeit Nordost Odin interconnects for a total of $104.00 from Aliexpress. I received them a couple of weeks later. They appeared to be well made, and the locking fake WBT rca's were very impressive and are very tight. 

First impressions after installing them were light, thin sound, lacking bass. Each couple of days brought improvements, but from the beginning I noticed that they were quieter. Now, weeks later, I can say that they are drastically better that the LAT's in every way. Detail and ambience are much better, but it's the focus and separation of instruments that is most noticeable. 

I have no way of knowing if they are really a copy of the Nordost design, but I am impressed enough that I am going to try a counterfeit Nordost digital cable.

Obviously, this isn't a comparison that is useful to most, because there probably isn't anyone here using the LAT's, and everything is system dependent. I just wanted to relay my positive experience. 

Nordost ODIN&2 RCA Fever Audio Signal Cable Double Lotus Sterling Silver Audio Cord Video CD Amplifier Tube Cable High Quality| | - AliExpress

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mahgister
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Canada had the same problem than America, the economy became an artefact completely out of any ground, there is no more common good only profit , and the education is in the gutter , only slave worker for corporation are needed than minimal education and too specialized too young ...

Quebec missed his historical moment in 1976 ...After that without the creativity of the greatest ambition Quebec became no more the nation it dreamed to be but a small province in a derelicted country because there is no more leadership in Canada either as in America for a long time ...

And it seems the world was missing his historical moment right now ...

I keep my optimism though but not by reading the news ... 😁

 

@mahgister , I was recently in your country (in Montreal) meeting with a customer. Most of your high quality engineers are immigrant stock. The issue is labor rates in the US, Canada, etc....If a natural born Canadian plumber or a hvac repair guy or some landscaper installing goofyass french drains can make more than an engineering PhD, why the hell would he go through all the insane trouble of going through PhD courework? The pay grade for the savants of society is indeed terrible. It’s the immigrant pool that largely keeps these countries afloat w.r.t technical excellence.

czarivey
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Well, @roxy54 

It all depends on quality of engineers.

The volume of the LEARNING material in Chinese or Indian schools is a LOT bigger than such in Western schools and it's really not about quantity at all.

Most American engineering schools have TRAINING material, not LEARNING.

Same applies to medical schools unfortunately.

 

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roxy54 OP
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@czarivey 

"Most American engineering schools have TRAINING material, not LEARNING."

Oh, so American engineering schools are no good, right? More unsupportable nonsense. Anyway, weren't we talking about Africa?

czarivey
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We are talking about SIZE of the learning material given per discussed nation. I think language pro should know how to grab the main idea of discussion right?

That size does matter and contributes to the quality of an engineer or any professional.

In India or China it’s at least twice the size of USA which dictates to study it at least twice as hard if not harder. Nearly same applies to Japan

Speaking about Africa and size of the learning material nearly approaching to zero, didn’t you get what I mean???

 

nass027
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Weren’t we talking about Chinese Cables?

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