"The Ultra High-End Speaker."


My entire relatively simple high end audio system retails for approx. $70,000, with my speakers alone retailing for approx. $24,000 (Revel Salon 2 speakers).  I've been around high-end audio for over 40 years.  I attend audio shows and visit local and non-local high-end audio shops on a regular basis.  I get to hears a lot of high-end audio speakers and gear all the time.  That said, I honestly believe, along with others who've visited my home and have listened to my system, that my system (speakers) produce that ultra high-end, reference quality sound.  Others would suggest that, when it comes to speakers, that the "Ultra High-End" sound can only be achieved by megabuck speakers costing 50K, 100K, 250k and beyond.  I do not believe that ultra high-end ("Sound Quality") is excusive to those speakers costing a king's ransom.  And, I think my own system is am example of what can be achieved at a lower (not for most people) price point.  I absolutely believe in the law of diminishing returns, especially when it comes to high-end speakers.  What's your definition, idea of, what you consider to be, a "Ultra High-End Speaker, and at what price point does the ultra high-end start?????            

kennymacc

It did not boil down to the synergy which is only the basic starting factor requirement here ...

To attain ultra high end sound you need an acoustic room and a dedicated one for specific speakers ... Ask Delavigne what role play his room in his sound quality experience snd say to him that he throw his money out of the window with his room , all we need is the higher price tag and synergy between components .........😁

To some degree it’s all relative to what we’ve been exposed to, but those who’ve owned and lived with that "ultra high end sound" truly know the difference. It still boils down to synergy of the individual components.

 

 
 

 

 

Ask Lavigne what role play his room in his sound quality experience and say to him that he throw his money out of the window with his room , all we need is the higher price tag and synergy between components ....

you don’t need a custom designed large room, but a good room is a prerequisite to ultimate performance. something that won’t hold you back.

then.......(1) having the room the right shape and size for the speaker, and (2) tweaking the room to a high degree........is where the code gets broken.

there are quite a few speakers that can be a part of an ultimate system. that just takes a check book. but then it’s up to the end user to chase perfection. it’s not for everyone. but dollars are not the main thing. gear lust will not be the end game. but nothing wrong with nice pretty things. modest systems can sound really great.

i did not have ultimate performance with lots of dollars invested until i figured out how to get the room to work right. so dollars do not equate to success. it can raise the ceiling, but not deliver the promise.

Thanks for your wise answer from experience ...

My experience with low cost good components is they benefit tremendously from the well done coupling with the room acoustic ...Your experience with high end components confirm my own experience ...

my best to you ...

i did not have ultimate performance with lots of dollars invested until i figured out how to get the room to work right. so dollars to not equate to success. it can raise the ceiling, but not deliver the promise.

The ONLY way to get the best performance out of ANY speaker is to first, use the best electronics and front-ends, second, to tune the room, and third to set up the speakers in the best position and then tune the crossovers to the room and electronics.  

You are right but it will not be enough...😁

Because of the lost of some acoustic information in the spatial dimension of the sound by crosstalk and this IN ANY STEREO SYSTEM at whatever price and perfection level ... ...

It is the reason why my only recommended upgrade, for those who are happy as Lavigne and me with their system/room, is the BACCH filters by Dr. Choueiri ...

It is true for Mike Lavigne system as for my very low cost system , we are happy with our own; any other upgrade would be problematic or perhaps marginal in the Lavigne Case ; in my case any real upgrade will be more costly and less impactful than the BACCH filters themselves ...

Psycho-acoustics science  rule the gear and room and their relation ...

Nevermind the price tag here  this will not change the basic fact about hearing  ......

 

The ONLY way to get the best performance out of ANY speaker is to first, use the best electronics and front-ends, second, to tune the room, and third to set up the speakers in the best position and then tune the crossovers to the room and electronics.