13 going 30.

Oh yes, indeed and I've been waiting. BlueRay is growing and sure should we. But if the latest Denon BlueRay 3800, the Marantz, and the latest $2K Sony ES player have the capabilty to produce sound just as good as these high-end "universal" players, I'm up for it. Not to mention that none of those BlueRay can play SACD.
I have tested couple BlueRays when they first came out and their sound quality did not meet my listening standard.

Nas,

Did you run them through something that could decode the new codecs? I doubt so because if you did you would not have said that!

A Sony unit outperforms ANY Esoteric? While I am all for creative writing this is a hard pill to swallow. Being this I have heard nobody else say this leaves some doubt but if its true surely this will come out in time.

>>On regular cd's Sony flag ship now beats Esoteric, any model, hands down<<

No fooling?

Please list all of the Esoteric players you've heard along with the associated components during evaluations with the Sony.

Also give a detailed explanation of each comparison as a result of the auditions.

This should be interesting.

Guys,

Not to add to this Sony/Esoteric debate, but I happen to have the original version of the Developmenti Blu-ray (DTS HD MA and Dolby TrueHD) and SACD hybrid discs, I played the Blu-ray in a Sony PS3 outputting LPCM to my pre/pro and used my Esoteric with the SACD and the Blu-ray was clearly better, now I know this is comparing two vastly different formats, but........