Big speakers, are they really the best way to get great sound?


Yesterday, I had the opportunity to listen to some very large speakers that are considered to be at, or close to, the pinnacle in speaker design and ability. Needless to say, the speakers retail in the mid to high $300k range. These speakers, and I will not be naming them, were sourced by about $800k of upstream gear. Room size was about thirty by twenty, maybe a little larger.
To say the the overall sound was BIG would be accurate, but also I noticed something else, that I typically hear with big speaker systems. Generally, the speakers were right on edge of overloading the room, depending on music, the dreaded bass boom could be heard. But, the whole presentation was greater in impact than most any smaller speaker system, yet it was almost unlistenable for the long term.

The question I asked myself, is do we really want this type of presentation in our home audio systems? The speakers threw a pretty large soundstage, but also made things sound somewhat larger than life. I also thought that this type of speaker is akin to the large box dynamic speakers of yesteryear. For example, a set of large horns from Altec Lansing or similar was reminiscent of this sound. Makes me believe that if one has a big room, a similar sound can be obtained from most any large speaker system and at a fraction of the price.

I listen in a very small room, and by necessity in the near field, yet I think the overall intimacy of this type of listening experience is better for me, your thoughts?

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I dont know milhorn secret sauce for speakers but he is right on this ... Musicality is a natural experience not an artificial or biased taste ...Psycho-acoustics science and experience rules audio not specific relative individual tastes ...

The fact that some human prefer to eat their victim living or /and dead has nothing to do with french or chinese refined culinary chemistry ...And the excellence of french or chinese culinary is grounded in perspectival educated cultural choices in chemistry grounded in the humam metabolism not in ungrounded idyosyncrasique arbitrary tastes ...Only sellers and marketers think that ...

Then "natural" soundfield is not arbitrary but conditioned by acoustics and psycho-acoustics concepts and conditions not by price tags ...

 

 

phusis what’s "natural" sounding to some obviously isn’t to others - if only it came down to that.

I don’t agree that the natural sound to me is unnatural to some others since we hear natural sounds (voices, winds, dog barking, car tire and engine sounds, water flowing, etc.) everywhere. Alex/Wavetouch

natural sound vs. unnatural sound speakers comparison.

 

phusis what’s "natural" sounding to some obviously isn’t to others - if only it came down to that.

I don’t agree that the natural sound to me is unnatural to some others since we hear natural sounds (voices, winds, dog barking, car tire and engine sounds, water flowing, etc.) everywhere. Alex/Wavetouch

natural sound vs. unnatural sound speakers comparison.

 

daveyf: Me personally, I want it all when it comes to being able to experiencing the full frequency range and also the entire musical spectrum in my room-----no matter how small (within reason, of course). Most all speakers, even stand mount speakers benefit from being placed in a large, spacious room (as you see Borresen bookshelf speakers being showcased in huge rooms at the shows). However, so many audiophiles, like us, do not have the luxury of having very large rooms at our disposal in our homes, so we have to make due with what we have. Now, you have to make a personal decision as to what size speakers you want in your small room. You’re correct, my speakers aren’t huge compared to the speakers you described, they’re more midsized as you said (but still large for my room). But the Revel Salon 2 speakers work really well in my small room because they are so adjustable and can be toned down to be sonically feasible in a small room like mine (most speakers can't be adjusted)  So, when it comes to larger speakers in small rooms, it really broils down to two things: speaker selection and your own sonic personal goals that you’re trying to achieve in your small room. My speakers provide me with such an extraordinary high level of sonic bliss in my little room that I feel like I’m listening to something very special ever time I turn up the volume. Lastly, I get incredible, near world class bass response in my little room as well, so I really am getting it all. Take care and happy listening

I love these questions. Why is it the big speakers matter? Why is it the cables matter? Do I really need to spend a lot of money?

you don’t have to do any of this. You can just bang on rocks with sticks,

Or, you can optimize your system so that it works the best in whatever room you are working with. Instead of just plopping some over size speaker into a room and hoping it will work. Then you can 'just bang on rocks with sticks'!