What is meant exactly by the description 'more musical'?


Once in awhile, I hear the term 'this amp is more musical' for some amps. To describe sound, I know there is 'imaging' and 'sound stage'. What exactly is meant by 'more musical' when used to describe amp?

dman777

My only point , once is said that the common place fact which related musicality to a subjective experience for sure, my only point is that it is not just a "taste" ; my only point was that for understanding musicality we must investigate the acoustic multiple factors which are behind this way less variable and arbitrary perception than the word "taste" suggest ...

A so simple observation cannot be contradict by those who claim that musicality is at the end only a purely relative taste with no deep meaning behind ... This deep meaning and factors are in acoustics science ...No one can dismiss acoustic science for the benefit of a tautology presented as a fact ...Musicality is an acoustic phenomenon investigated by acoustics not a mere relative idyosincrasic taste ...

It is incredible that many people  are in the obligation to repeat that ...

Psycho-acoustics rule and explain  musicality experience which is more than just an individual taste ...

 

«Taste there is, but taste it is not »-- Groucho Marx 🤓

 

 

Maybe in the purest sense, the definition of musicality can’t be "owned" by one individual. Nevertheless, I believe that there are aspects of describing how music sounds when played back that need to be present for many people to say that the sound is musical (for them)...examples might be the tone, the dynamics, the flow, the lack of harshness...but for any individual, that combination of characteristics that makes something musical is personal (to them).

sorry but my finger error.

 

@mahgister :   " 

I dont doubt that most audiophiles plays with room acoustic in a way or in another ... I am not alone ...

But there is difference of level and control between putting panels on a wall and designing and distributing resonators in a room...."

 

Yes there are differences as how each one of us and at what level are " there " : so what?.  I'm satisfied with my room/system quality MUSIC reproduction and you are satisfied with yours as several other room/system owners Exist diffeent paths/roads to arrive Rome, that choosed " road " is each one privilege and you  and any one else CAN'T questioning it as we can't questioning what any one else " likes ". I respect you  but you are not the Bible in that regards or in any other about.

 

" Musicality which you claimed is only a subjective arbitrary taste..."

first I never mentioned " musicality " but " musical ", so please don't put words in my mouth. 

 

Here Cambridge Dictionary on the subject examples:

 

"In his view, musical talent refers to the capacity for musical performance, whereas musicality is the capacity for musical reception. "

 

in the other side:

 

 

No pun intented and remember that you as all of us are only a human being with different characteristics and different knowledge and ignorance levels and as any other of us you are not the Bible in any audio subjects.

R.

 

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you are opinionated it seems ... I am also opinionated ... 😉

 

By the way the fact that there is many roads to reach musical experience does not means that there is no acoustics concepts behind all these different choices nor does it means that these roads if successful will be so only because some has more "taste" than others ...

Musicality is explained as a set of psycho-acoustices necessary conditions and as a set of acoustics factors that are the same for everyone... If it was not the case , no acoustician, no musician, no maestro , no informed audiophiles, no gear designers , could be relatively in accord about "musicality" when they encounter it in gear design , in a system/ room playback experience , or in a living event acoustic rendition ...

There is more or so universal consensus about what is a good recording event , and there is rules for it as there is universal consensus among musicians about what is a good great Hall or what are the worst one where to put a playing orchestra ... Even in ancient architecture master taught how to design a theater and a church for acoustical musical experience ...

 

«Musicality is like wine, tasting is not understanding wineries »Anonymus drunk maestro🧐

 

sorry but my finger error.

 

@mahgister : "

I dont doubt that most audiophiles plays with room acoustic in a way or in another ... I am not alone ...

But there is difference of level and control between putting panels on a wall and designing and distributing resonators in a room...."

 

Yes there are differences as how each one of us and at what level are " there " : so what?. I’m satisfied with my room/system quality MUSIC reproduction and you are satisfied with yours as several other room/system owners Exist diffeent paths/roads to arrive Rome, that choosed " road " is each one privilege and you and any one else CAN’T questioning it as we can’t questioning what any one else " likes ". I respect you but you are not the Bible in that regards or in any other about.

 

" Musicality which you claimed is only a subjective arbitrary taste..."

first I never mentioned " musicality " but " musical ", so please don’t put words in my mouth.

 

Here Cambridge Dictionary on the subject examples:

 

"In his view, musical talent refers to the capacity for musical performance, whereas musicality is the capacity for musical reception. "

 

in the other side:

 

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No pun intented and remember that you as all of us are only a human being with different characteristics and different knowledge and ignorance levels and as any other of us you are not the Bible in any audio subjects.

R.

Btw, @mulveling  when I talk of " component matching " I refer to elictrical/mechanical matched.

 

R.

@mahgister  : "  does not means that there is no acoustics concepts behind all these different choices. "

 

I never said " there is no acoustics concepts behind " and as a fact I " said " the other way around when I posted that agree with @mapman ​​​​​@hilde45 .

 

Btw, just think why you can't argue against ( inside MUSIC reproduction at home )

what other gentleman likes. Maybe you can say: " is wrong or way deaf " but these are no true arguments against that " I like " of that gentleman even if you don't like what he likes/taste.

R.