WHY IS THERE SO MUCH HATE FOR THE HIGH END GEAR ON AUDIO GEAR?


It seems like when I see comments on high end gear there is a lot of negativity. I have been an audiophile for the last 20 years. Honestly, if you know how to choose gear and match gear a lot of the high end gear is just better. When it comes to price people can charge what they want for what they create. If you don’t want it. Don’t pay for it. Look if you are blessed to afford the best bear and you can get it. It can be very sonically pleasing. Then do it. Now if you are also smart and knowledgeable you can get high end sound at mid-fi prices then do it. It’s the beauty of our our hobby. To build a system that competes with the better more expensive sounding systems out there. THOUGHTS?

calvinj

Actually Toole and Olive essentially did exactly the same test using speakers. And they published the entire experiment in the peer reviewed AESJ. This is a very common method used in many clinical studies. So is that a sad commentary on how science does research on human perception?

Did you hit your head recently? The procedure I mentioned was done in an appropriate way whereas the one I addressed was not. That, and Barton was part of the team you mentioned, which may explain your misunderstanding. 

All the best,
Nonoise

@JacobsDad

Since this has become a toilet thread, I think your trigger of audio asylum days is technically referred to as a "flushback." 

rational thinkers , scientists and logicians know that design of experiments is difficult at best with large groups of subjects…. science is messy and unsettled… Barton who i admire certainty voiced some frustration ( with the D in DOE )…. 

For example, i would never setup a group test with a large panel radiator… even the 100% measure crowd should be able to figure out WHY… and anyone who has owned panels will know why as well.  Of course a point source is better but still flawed because a wide “ sweet spot” is lossy… Go ahead, use math… 

ignore the blowhard know it all…. focus instead on those actually seeking to improve the complex ear / brain DOE 

Peter a genius might have really been on to something with a panel that emulated… a point source…. RIP good man

@calvinj It seems that you were given the ultimatum, "I’ll move on when you drop the cliche excuses and ad hominem arguments", to get @scottwheel of your and 99% of this tread participants backs 😁. And I thought it could not get more entertaining.