Have we lost civility and respect on Audio forums?

@wturkey @rok2id i agree civility was lost a long time ago.  I actually quit posting on Audiogon about 4 years ago.  I left because it became less about sound and more about personal insults. Challenging people’s intelligence and integrity.  Stuff that people do on the internet but wouldn’t probably do face to face.  It kills the conversation where people can learn and or enjoy. 

“ I’m not going to let a guy tell me cable’s don’t affect the sound and not take him to task on it.”

Basic cables that are competently built are audibly transparent. Some cables, be it by accident or design will color the sound. If you want to “take me to task” on it feel free to do so. Let’s see if you can do so with the civility you so lament is missing on audio forums and with the respect you expect from others. I am more than happy to argue my position purely on verifiable objective facts. 

@scottwheel it’s not a respect thing. Look I just would never listen to you on this issue. There is nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree. I hear a difference. You don’t. You don’t  have to invest your time and money in cables.  I will. It’s ok and nothing wrong with that. There are just a lot of folks here that will never agree with you on this. That’s ok they don’t have to. If you are happy with generic cables. More power to you.  But I’m not going to trust someone in the internet who has not heard the difference it makes in my system that I listen to everyday. I don’t know your system, amps, speakers or level of equipment.  Just wouldn’t make any sense.  But anyway. Last response to you because you will go on and on and on. Take care. 

Basic cables that are competently built are audibly transparent. Some cables, be it by accident or design will color the sound.

@scottwheel All cables are equal, but some cables are more equal than others. 
 

In that case, how do you know if the cables are either transparent or color the sound? What measurement instruments or tools are you utilizing to make this determination? Were you present in the studio at the time of the recording and your sonic memory is so impeccable that you can reliably draw this type of conclusion? Or is it purely subjective based on your listening tests?

“ But I’m not going to trust someone in the internet who has not heard the difference it makes in my system that I listen to everyday.”

I would not expect you or anyone else to “take my word” on this or anything else. It’s not about “my word.” As for the difference your cables make in your system, I would not take your word or anyone else’s either. Verifiable facts are not built on anecdotal evidence. First we would have to actually measure the transfer function of your cables. *Your* cables may very well be audibly colored. If they are then they do indeed make a difference. Mine are not. The transfer function of my cables have no audible distortions. No one has to take anyone’s word. It’s all objectively testable. And no one has to test anything if they are satisfied with anecdotal evidence.