Purchase on Audiogon arrived not as described


Hello,

I purchased a speaker pair through Audiogon that was listed as a 10/10 falwless pair. The speakers arrived damaged. They were not properly packed they were piano gloss finish and only packed woth a single layer of a very thin fabric cloth and one layer of bubble wrap in a flimsy single layer cardboard box single boxed.

The speakers arrived 11/30 (Thursday) and due to work I wasn't able to open the package until the night of 12/1 (Friday). I took photos of the unboxing process and I was surprised to see how little packaging therewas for a 50lb+ speaker pair with piano gloss finish. I was extremely careful unpacking the speakers and after unwrapping them I saw the damage. One speaker is busted on the bottom with a crack, the other speaker has 3 large strike marks and chips to the edge.

 

Within minutes of seeing the damage I contacted the seller. I have no way of knowing if the speakers were damaged in transit due to poor packaging or if the seller scammed me. I contacted the seller within minutes of seeing the damage and explained the situation. The seller immediately became defensive and said I had plenty of time to evaluate the speakers and that I probably didn't like them so I purposely damaged them. This offended me and was quite ridiculous. The speakers were at my house for one day and I didn't unbox them until I had the time the next day. The speakers have remained in the original packaging taking up space since this date.

 

I tried to communicate with the seller and the seller completely stopped answering messages through audiogon. I filed a dispute through Audiogon and linked the seller Audiogon's policy on selling and items not arriving in the condition listed. The staff at Audiogon managed to get ahold of the seller and told me the seller was not being reasonable. They advised me to file a PayPal claim. I filed my claim on 12/3 after spending two days communicating with the staff and trying to have them be a middleman to communicate between the seller and I. The seller never responded.

 

I have now been waiting for weeks on the dispute with paypal. The seller responded to the dispute and is fighting to keep my money. I offered to send the speakers back to the seller from the beginning and properly package them how I would have liked to receive them packed. I am worried about paypal being so slow and have heard stories of paypal siding with scammers before.

newtoaudio100

They advised me to file a PayPal claim

the reason to buy THROUGH and pay a fee TO Audiogon is to avoid situations like this.

Was the shipment insured? If e.g. UPS damaged it, and you or the shipper declared and paid to insure the value, you can file a claim with the carrier too.

The packaging and not double-boxing for the speakers is a bad start and reflects poorly on the seller.

I was lucky in my past buyings ...

Big amplifier and delicate devices...

I sold a tube amplifier with 50 tubes  once and they were so well wrapped that the buyer was not able to retrieve them without a planified scissors and knife deep exploitation for more than one hour ... 😉

I wish you retrieve your money and had a joyful christmas... 🎄

to put your mind at somewhat ease, I had similar disputes with paypal. It took them 3 weeks but they did refund me. 

I hope this ends up visible on the seller's feedback. That's certainly not worthy behavior of a 100% positive.