What is meant exactly by the description 'more musical'?


Once in awhile, I hear the term 'this amp is more musical' for some amps. To describe sound, I know there is 'imaging' and 'sound stage'. What exactly is meant by 'more musical' when used to describe amp?

dman777

You explicitly said that i babble and that i am a quack...

There is not much difference.. I forgot mindless paranoiac... Insults are insults nevermind the word choice..

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Oh, and I am not going to accuse you of lying, but I never referred to you in this thread as an "idiot." The term "idiot" has not been used as a clinical description of the intellectually disabled/delayed for quite a while. The last I knew, MR was being broken down to mild, moderate, severe, and profound.

By the way none of your answers about the matter of the thread had an argument ... You only throwed common place fact from a dictionary and insults to anything above your nose or head... All is taste period... ...

When i spoke about immersiveness for example you call that babbling words even if you had no idea what is "immersiveness" experience in acoustic and how to perceive and control it ...

And so on and so on ...

I am a quack and you said it yourself your rolled on your back reading my posts ... This is pathetic answer no ?

I am too serious... I should  never had bother myself and others  to answer to your tail race about "taste" but i am not perfect either ... 😊

Now i will stop...

 

 

I wish you really a good year...

With all there is in the world my passion for audio and acoustic is nothing very important save for me...😊

You explicitly said that i babble and that i am a quack...

There is not much difference.. I forgot mindless paranoiac... Insults are insults nevermind the word choice..

Once again I will not accuse you lying (as you did to me) but I never referred to you , personally, as a quack--only all those doctors you kept referring to. You mentioned reading a lot of books, and that’s good, but after I was laid off in ’05 I made one of my bad life choices and retrained for a new career in health care; for that I took a couple of semesters of anatomy and physiology and a semester of micro and a lot more and I read a lot of books--but that never made me a brain surgeon. Babble? Maybe that is subject to the ears and eyes of the listener/reader. The way you were responding to certain posts I made that were not about you or directed at anyone, least of all you, was coming off as paranoid. And there is a difference: once upon a time, the term "idiot" was a clinical term that was used to describe a particular IQ. I do not recall referring to your IQ. Although I never said as much, I am assuming that you are not typing in your first language, and that, alone, is an acheivement beyond me.

When i spoke about immersiveness for example you call that babbling words even if you had no idea what is "immersiveness" experience in acoustic and how to perceive and control it ...

Isn’t "immersiveness" a synonym for something? But okay, I could have asked you to expound upon that. That doesn’t seem to be a bad term to describe how a system that is doing the right thing on a given night will bring the listener a pleasing and harmonious experience. But it too just might mean different things to different people; I am not sure . . . depending upon the context, without giving it undue thought, the word "immerse" does almost sound like an objective and active verb. So I’ll give you that one.

I am a quack and you said it yourself your rolled on your back reading my posts ... This is pathetic answer no ?

Again, I don’t believe that I referred to you, personally, as a quack. If you can find the post that I did, I will stand corrected, because I guess it is possible, but I don’t think so, and I am not going to go back and do the reading. "Pathetic" is a modifier I do not use all that often . . . I think there is an argument that it has different meanings in different context . . . I am relatively certain that I did not use it in this "discussion."

 

I am too serious... I should never had bother myself and others to answer to your tail race about "taste" but i am not perfect either ... 😊

I know for a fact that I have NEVER claimed to be perfect. I know that I am opening the door for push-back on this, but I believe that different gear appeals to different tastes, as does the sound of different musical instruments. Therefore, I still maintain that "more musical" may have different meanings to different listeners

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I wish you really a good year...

With all there is in the world my passion for audio and acoustic is nothing very important save for me...😊

I don’t wish you any ill will or bad luck and I honestly would rather that you had a good year than a bad year. I think that if you are happy with the sonic results you have acheived, that is a good thing. I can be happy with mine; I also understand that there is a lot more out there. There is at least one I can think of specifically who describes a great room and speakers that cost more than my entire system front to back. I cannot have that and I am better off not hearing it, as it just might ruin (for me) what I do have.

 

 

 

 

Thanks for your reply...

I am in the same situation as you... My budget was very limited and twelve years ago i had nothing to make my audiophile dream come  true...

I learned by experimenting... One full year non stop in my room ... I reach was i was aiming for, "a more musical " experience because i was inspired by my reading about acoustic concepts and i played by experiments  with them in my own way...

I prefer that we spoke in a friendly manner... I am often too serious... Then it can create "problems"... I am not as wise as i aim for... 😊

Anyway you seems not a bad guy at all ...

Then i apologize for my obsessive clarifications ...

I only hope that my references can be useful to one ...

I wish you the best ...

 

I don’t wish you any ill will or bad luck and I honestly would rather that you had a good year than a bad year. I think that if you are happy with the sonic results you have acheived, that is a good thing. I can be happy with mine; I also understand that there is a lot more out there. There is at least one I can think of specifically who describes a great room and speakers that cost more than my entire system front to back. I cannot have that and I am better off not hearing it, as it just might ruin (for me) what I do have.

 

 

 
 

 

 

That’s cool. And somewhere near the end of all this you did offer up "improved transients and imaging and timbre" (which I assumed referred to a more accurate reproduction of timbre) and I said that this was concrete and that I could go along with all of that as making for a more pleasing and harmonious effect which would actually coincide with what Mirriam Webster’s definition was. And you may have missed it, but I did give you credit for that one.

@atmasphere , sorry that as fast as this was going I missed your post about your buddy who passed away. That was an interesting post. I guess I must have known the wrong crowd, because they would more likely have been listening to thrash-metal when they were brewing up some methamphetamine. Not that I ever personally knew anyone who ever did that, but if a lot of those guys would have had the know-how, I could have definitely seen them doing that.

Anyway, you also provided a definition of "more musical" as sounding like "real music" [Quotation marks are mine]. By "real music", do you mean as it sounds in the audience of a large colliseum or at the mixing board? Or do you mean as it sounds to the audience in an unamplified venue? Or do you mean the way it sounds in the studio when it is being recorded? I ask because I don’t know if I have ever been to an unamplified performance, and I’d go so far as to say that I actually prefer tehe SQ of my own system to the amplified performances I attended in large venues . . . that may be partially because I was in a pretty bad condition at a few of them, but I don’t think that it was the SQ we were going for. Even much later in life when I started going to what I consider more intimate venues (500 seats GA) the small bands and performers were amplified and it still was not the SQ I was going for . . . I wanted to see my favorite performers and/or groups perform more than I wanted to hear them perform. . . .

 

"....at least one...."   I can think of many....and the last sentence is likely shared by more than one that may consider that comment....

We all strive to have the best we can manage...given our circumstances.

I wish all of us a good year, and better than that if at all possible.

Peace, out...