Amp upgrade, speaker cables or both


Over the last 4 years I have upgraded every bit of my system except for my Analysis Plus chocolate oval speaker cables. The last major upgrade I made was replacing my ancient Kef 104/2 s with Tannoy Cheviots.  Now I am wondering if my Parasound A23+ amp is under powered for the speakers, or if I should bite the bullet and replace my speaker cable, a project I find not very interesting and potentially expensive as I have some long runs. As to the amp, I could spend $5-6000, though would be happy to spend less. I also would consider a used amp, if it wasn't so old that I had to worry about caps going bad, etc.

My system is as follows:  

Amp: Parasound A23+ 165w x 2 into 8 ohms Pre:   Parasound P6
Speakers: Tannoy Cheviots, Analysis Plus Chocolate Oval speaker cables
Digital Streamer/Source: Heavily modified BlueSound NODE 130 (added Fidelity Audio clock board, replacement PSU module & LPSU)/ Innuos Phoenix USB clock/reclocker / Gustard X26 Pro DAC (connected by Shunyata Alpha USB cables)
All other interconnects: Synergistics Research Foundation or better
Power: Power conditioner: Synergistics Research Powercell 10 SE Mk 3 w SR Atmosphere level 3 cord; All power cords SR Foundation

Listening room: WIFE's LIVINGROOM  14' left to right on the front wall, 16' deep, opening up to a dining room area to the rear. That means my speakers are in the corners of the front of the room with a large window and couch in between them, and all of my audio boxes are in a cabinet on the right wall that supports the TV. On the left wall opposite the cabinet/TV is another couch, where the end towards the front of the house partially blocks the left speaker. I have a comfy chair 9' back from the front wall, about 9' from each speaker (speakers are pulled away from the front wall)(as an aside, I got the Cheviots in part as Tannoy was a brand that my guy at Upscale Audio in Laverne said would be able to deal with my listening room, and he was right as I have a pretty good soundstage, considering).

So now to the issues:

Amp:

I am wondering if I should upgrade my Parasound A23+ amp. I wrote Tannoy, and they told me they recommended an amp with 250w x 2, and told me the max power handling of the speakers was 125w continuous, 500w peak. Needless to say, I probably never play the A23+ at more than half way up, but you always read about people talking about headroom. I was looking at the A21+ which has 300w x 2, though it doesn't seem like a much cleaner amp than the A23+.  What would you folks suggest? 

Speaker Cable:

I am wondering if upgrading that would improve SQ. The problem is that with my audio electronics on the right side of the room, I have a pretty long run to the speakers, especially the left one. I was wondering if it might be cheaper to relocate my amp to the right front corner behind the right speaker, and get a long interconnect between pre and amp. When I upgraded my amp power cord to SR Foundation in line with all of my other cords, I got one that would be long enough to go from my SR Powercell to that location.

 

lloyd1969

First, thanks for all the good and helpful info. It would also be most helpful if you could share what specific improvements you’re looking for and what sound characteristics are most important to you.  This will lead to much better recommendations based on your particular tastes/goals.

As an aside, if you can figure a way to even temporarily hang a thin blanket or such in front of the window just to see what happens it might be a worthwhile experiment. That big window in between your speakers is doing you no favors sonically. Just a thought FWIW.

I have upgraded my system over the last few years and there's two things I have experienced that may be valuable to you:

  1. Audition different things to see what's out there.  My preferences for sound changed over time (used to own McIntosh and preferred a more transparent sound when I audition stuff).  Also amp power varies across manufacturers.  You may want more power and I have significantly more power from my Moon  amp (225 watt/channel) than I did from my McIntosh MC302 (300 watt/channel)...it's not close.
  2. Speaker cable made a difference for me - its not close to the impact of the amp.  I'd consider this after you determine if a new amp is desired/required.

Your current cables are much better than your current amp.   You should also consider upgrading your pre.

 

Second point: cables aren’t a component. they are a secondary effect. Junk cables degrade sound. Once you have good cables, there is very little to be had by changing cable.

 

You don’t need more power.

Jerry

@carlsbad2 

"Second point: cables aren’t a component."

Oops! Wrong! I think that most agreed a long time ago that they are after realizing the influence that they have on the sound of our systems.