Measurements for a dedicated line


The question of whether a homeowner should get a dedicated line is often like "should I get bangs." It’s a little complicated. Here are a couple of reasons to consider not:

I. My experience is that you won’t eliminate all the other noise coming from your home even if you do run a dedicated line. I still hear motors switching on and off despite being on completely different circuits.

II. A little resistance and a little inductance may actually be a good thing in keeping noise out of your line, so overkill on the wire gauge may not help this.

Why you definitely should get a dedicated line, with thicker wiring:

 

Less voltage sag.

 

Voltage sag means that under load the resistance in the line will cause the AC cabling int he wall itself to consume some of the AC voltage, giving your gear less volts to work with. This sag is proportional to current, so the more amps your gear is drawing the more sag.

This sag is something you can measure. There are two things you need to look: The hot to neutral voltage and the neutral to ground.

With nothing on the circuit your N-E (neutral to earth or ground) should be 2V or less. If it’s significantly higher than that stop and call an electrician. That’s true for any circuit in your home. High N-E values are indicators of a problem which may be in the circuit or in the service wiring from outside to the panel.

What happens when you turn your equipment on and play music is that the line will sag. The H-N (hot to neutral) voltage will drop, and the N-E will go up. Some sag as you turn on big amps is normal. So long as you are not tripping breakers you are fine. What you want to measure is the sag after your system has stabilized and while it’s playing music.

Keep an eye on the N-E value, as this will be a good indicator of the sag independent of the incoming line voltage. It may also point out where you may have issues. That is, if you measure an extra 2V of N-E, your sag is probably around 4V, so you went from 120V to 116V and you can be relatively comfortable it isn’t outside influences.

Of course, any good multimeter will work for this but I like plug in meters with built in N-E measurements. This one is cheap, and the N-E may not be hyper accurate, but it is the only device I’ve found on Amazon that will show you both the H-N and N-E voltages at the same time.

The nice thing about any plug-in type voltage meter is you can watch it over  a couple of days without hand holding probes in the socket.

If you find another which does both please post.

 

 

erik_squires

@erik_squires I assume you're referring to the new PP12 that weighs 1/3 what my PP10 does.  I'm still surprised that they output noise but I'm pretty sure my 90 lb behemoth isn't class D.  --Jerry

@carlsbad2 Honestly haven't kept up with them that closely.  I remember there was an original generation that was essentially using linear amplifiers, then they switched to Class D.

At the same time the founder of Jensen Transformers (really nice guy) founded another power conditioning company, Perfect Power?  Forgot the exact name, that used buck/boost transformers.  Very efficient compared to the PP, but still based on a linear amp.  Sadly that didn't really go anywhere. Sounded like an excellent compromise IMHO.

@erik_squires Thanks for the insight.  Yes, my PP10 is the original and the PP12 replaced it.  Even Paul once kindof ruminated that the PP10 might be the better option, especially for amps.  

Too bad about Jensen.  PS Audio is tough competition. but I'd like to see another option for the old school design.

Jerry

 

If you are doing a dedicated line, there's a couple of interesting alternatives.  Getting a sub panel, and running 240V instead of 120V.

A sub panel means you run say 6 gauge wiring up to your listening room and then use short 12 gauge runs to each outlet.  Since you have 6 gauge wiring, your overall voltage sag is going to be negligible.

Another alternative is to run 240V and use a balanced power conditioner to step it down.  Again, you cut the current in half, therefore the sag is halved.