recommend PRAT Integrated amplifiers (not Naim)


what are some modern integrated amps in the 5-10k range that offer a heavy dose of PRAT

not seeking anything Naim

for some frame of reference, was recently recommended Rega Aethos and Hegel H590...neither had the PRAT of my NAD C298 power amp (which is not an ntegrated and had some harshness to it)

please and thanks

Is the Yamaha A-S3200 or Bryston B135 known for PRAT?  Simaudio maybe?

 

 

 

 

audiocanada

I specifically asked AI the question and in addition to Naim (#1), Rega and Musical Fidelity both came up near the top as amps that users commonly associate with PRAT. So that. It also pointed out that PRAT is a subjective thing. Smarty pants! If pRAT is where it’s at then Naim is the bomb apparently. So why rule that one out?Also, who are we to argue when a computer objectively settles the score regarding subjective decision making?

Then again, PRAT sounds like a very British kind of thing.  So any surprise traditionally British companies do particularly well there? Way to go AI!

I can’t even repeat here the blasphemy AI delivered when I asked if fuses are directional. What audiophile did the training there? Look it up! Inquiring minds want to know. This place could become very boring if this keeps up. 😬

PRAT is heavily influenced by speakers, dacs, the recording themselves, etc. Perceptively, I'm not sure how anyone's able to boil it down to an amp in a listening test.

On the same note, the Yamaha A-S3200 is a great amp, going back 15 yeas now along with its predecessor 3100. The minute you pop the hood and look at it, the relative inferiority of most other amps in price class will become apparent.

A quote about PRAT from member secretguy

@jmarini2 It's term given to qualities that golden ears think they can discern. Much like sightings of Bigfoot. It's meaningless.

Sorry I have  immensely disagree, how many here actually play an instrument, I play drums and have played in bands and recorded a cd all analogue, have played with people who have been on gold lps and a platinum lp even did a full gig with a nine time grammy nominee who turned to me and said "you guys can really play"

PRAT is the essence of music as My favorite lead singer Steven Tyler says "its 2s and 4s man 2s and 4s" and he nails them like nobodys business, anyway the audio world is full of words to describe systems, soundstage, air, etched, black background etc.......the list is endless....here is the problem, real musicians have no idea what you are talking about.

A truly musical system needs no words, when it is musical you nod your head tap your feet, sing along etc, just like when you hear real music played well.

 

In my opinion the more audiophile words that are used to describe something the truly less musical it is, I have heard a fair amount of gear in my home, and some do a great job of presenting the audiophile qualities but they turn the 2s and 4s into 2s and 2s.....not musical