You don't lack bass, you have too much treble


One of the biggest surprises in audio and acoustics is how damping a room with treatments makes small speakers sound so much bigger.  Yes, you get a broader, deeper soundstage but you also seem to get a lot more bass, more power, more extension!!

What's going on? 

What happened is your room was too bright.  The overall balance was too heavy on the mid and treble so as a result your systems balance was off.

For this reason I often suggest before A'goners start chasing bigger and bigger speakers, that  they think about the room first, add damping and diffusion and then go back to thinking about the bass.

Not saying you don't need a bigger speaker, but that some rooms may never have a big enough speaker in them due to the natural reflective properties.

erik_squires

Without bass, you're in a lot of treble.

Yes, we is...and with that pun, I'll hit the parking brake with this:

Bacons' great except during sex.....you end up biting the wrong things.
...and the grease is too salty...

Sorry, Erik.....

Let's get back to bass fishing....

About Bass ...

I had 20 hertz bass in my headphone...I hear bass through my body because of skelton resonance ... Unlike any other headphones i listened too...

I had clear 50 hertz with my small speakers with no inflow of bass in the mid frequencies... Very good bass ...But no deep bass ...

I think the balance between frequencies matter as much than going from 50 hertz to 20 but with no good balance...

I live very well with my small speakers...

For sure it will be better with a bigger set of speakers or with sub.... But i listen in nearfield and i cannot put bigger speakers on my desk nor wish to accomodate a well coupled sub...

I felt no frustration in this situation because the speakers are so well balanced and good on all others acoustics factors...

But for sure my AKG K340 beat my speakers at the end... but i dont felt any evident defect when i listened my speakers ( i use them more than the headphone which are reserved for sacred listening ceremonies.)

My key word is then more "balance"  than  "bass" ...

 

 

 
 

 

 

Utter bollocks. In my large open listening room there's very little for bass to reflect on therefore little bass and high end fine. 2 subs solved it.

...and I'll vote with @jkf011 , ultimately.  Too much I relate to the 'basser's that cruise about, megawatt subs up to anything loose in the ride rattling...

Great for one's GI tract, I'd guess...not my problem, tho'...🤷‍♂️

Dial them in to what seems to fit the mix and/or program.  I can dish out plenty, but know when it's 'quite enough, thenkewu....'

Been around enough garage bands, gone to enough concerts, rattled enough glassware...😏

@mahgister 20hz in your 'phones?  

Take care there, Rock'nRoller.... ;)

Better off making self a tactile bass shaker suit.....

"See the man vibin' down the street....'citing all the windows he meets...

Mahg's the Bassman....vibin' all the fans..."

(Appropo....playlist just brought up N. Youngs' Rockin' in the Free World....*L*)

my K340 is an hybrid with two dedicated cells and with an internal grid of 5 Helmholtz tuned resonators separating perfectly among other effects bass and mids and making this phone to give deep bass without flowing interaction with usual bass..

Not only that but i modified and optimized them with 6 mods... The main one is i put inside and outside anti resonance materials and dampers of two kind to comnplement each others ...

By bone resonances i feel deep bass with my chest and feet...

is it 20 hertz ?

i did not measure it but i listen big church organ music of Bach and some organ go down 8 hertz...

I am pretty sure i hear then 20 hertz or near it with my feet ...

I disliked all headphones i bough... Save the K340 i like a lot after 6 months of intensive studies about it even with the original paper of the founder of AKG who design it...

I spoke with Kennerton representant about hybrid headphones as the K340... Because i asked them how they will build one...

They said it is too costly to design right because of the research implkied, too costly to make and too litlle profit...

This design complexities is the reason it takes me time to improve them so much that they are my audiophile reference now not my small modified speakers so much i love them ..

 

 By the way if the recording make it possible  i hear the soundfield out of my head...Not inside my head...

 

 My best to you my friend ...

@mahgister 20hz in your ’phones?