thanks Guys. mine are toed in maybe 3-5 degrees. the right speaker has nothing beside it to create additional HF. the left speaker has a wall near it but i have a big sound diffusion panel at the first reflection to help. I use a laser level across the front of the speakers that projects a laser line onto the other speaker. it barely bisects the side of the speaker and when i get the same thing on both speakers, i have got them toed in the same. does that make sense? i would post pics but there is no way to do it as far as i can tell.