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@yyzsantabarbara I recall you say this:

"Do some research on the much cheaper Schitt Yggi+ Less is More. It was designed by a guy named Mike Moffet. I was telling a friend about the DAC 2 days ago. He is in the HiFi business, and he told me I was the 4th person that said great things about the LIM to him.

He also told me that he had a long conversation with Mike Moffet years ago when he did a project with Schitt and he thought MM came across as a digital genius.

I had the Gustard X26 Pro. It was bettered by the Musetec 005. It was bettered by the Lumin X1. It was bettered by the Schitt Yggi+ LIM. In fairness, the X1 is also an incredible streamer"

My very first DAC was a Schitt Gungnir that I paid $849 for in 2013. It didn't sound as good as my $500 Marantz CD player, so I never looked back at Schiit, thinking their name kinda says it all. Sounds like they have come a long way since then!

I never said that last part on the Gungnir.

My friend’s opinion on audio is like gold to me. The dude is a savant when it comes to audio. He came over to my place and heard the LIM with my big system, the Yamaha NS5000. It was not great with that slightly warmer system. I ended up using the Benchmark DAC3B for the rest of the listening and we both liked it more than the LIM combination. However, we both feel the DAC3B is just an OK DAC and too hot on top. He has the DAC3B in his lab.

Moving the LIM to my brighter office system which has the LRS+ and the Sanders Magtech made for an excellent combination. I listen to this system every day for hours. I know I can get more detail but I am loving the sounds as is.

The Yggi+ DAC is better than the DAC3B in many ways. That is why I have the more detailed OG on order for the Yamaha NS5000.

The LIM reminds me of the Sony SCD-1 SACD player I owned for 20-years. It was modded and an exceptional player. It was not the most detailed (compared to modern DACs), but the enjoyment factor was very high with it. The LIM is similar that way.

The main guy at Playback Designs was involved in the creation of the Sony SCD-1 so that is a big reason I am interested in the MPD-8 DAC sometime in the future.

BTW - the reason I got the OG over the MIB that I was initially planning to get was that a guy at Schitt, who is a musician, spoke to me at length why he though the OG was the best DAC Schitt ever made, he hated the LIM. So, take that as another data point.

Easy thing with Schitt is you can do a home demo. Just run your streamer for 24 x 15 and hear it for yourself. It will cost a few bucks to restock.

I never said that last part on the Gungnir.

@yyzsantabarbara LOL! You read outside the quotation marks, that was me who spoke of the Gungnir as being my first DAC!

Thanks for the rest of the info though.

I've owned both the Yggy LIM and M3 and liked both. ~$3500 for the M3 with streamer and remote is a great price!   If you don't need the integrated streamer and volume control the LIM was a nice sounding DAC to me for ~$2K but I thought it lacked a little detail.   It remined me a lot of the more expensive Mojo Audio R2R DAC I replaced the M3 with.  In the $2-2.5K range I'm currently running a Weiss 205 with Keces LPS and think it has at least the resolution of the M3 and allows one to hear into the recording more than the LIM.   It is a little on the clean/lean side of things, but not too bad; it still has nice tone.   I replaced a Meitner MA3 with it as the differences didn't out weight the price differences in my view.

I don't regret buying something as expensive as the MA3 as it's the best DAC I've owned, but to be honest the differences don't always out way the price differences if you choose wisely and depending on the rest of your system; YMMV.