Ethernet cable for music streaming


I know there have been threads on this topic, including my own from last year, but I'd like to pursue this issue further, perhaps from a slightly different angle. Here's my conundrum: I'm not getting the sound quality from my Innuos PulseMini streamer that I think it's capable of and I've never been able to put my finger on what the weak link in my system is. I'm streaming Qobuz through the Innuos SenseApp on my Samsung tablet. While some parts of the frequency range sound really good (bass, mid-bass, lower mids, e.g.), when we get to the range where vocals live and above, the sound loses fidelity and definition. Things sound fuzzy and muddled, especially if the music is complex or dense. Loud orchestral passages can be really unpleasant to listen to.

The streamer is connected via USB to a Sonnet Morpheus DAC, and is fed via ethernet cable from my AT&T router. It's about a 35 ft. run of CAT5 that goes under the house and up through the floor of my listening (living) room. It doesn't run near any other electric lines. There's an ethernet switch that divides the signal between the TV, the Roku box, and the streamer. I do have the option of running a dedicated line from the router to the streamer, but I need some advice on whether this will improve things any. I tried plugging the existing ethernet cable into the streamer directly, bypassing the switch, but this yielded no improvement. 

Would it help to use CAT6 or CAT6a cable for this run? And should it be shielded or unshielded? I've read some posts that indicate shielded cables introduce their own distortions into the signal, so I'm really not sure which way to go here. 

I'd be grateful for advice from the many of you who are more expert on this subject than I am. Thanks.

cooper52

May want to give an Etheregen switch a try? 30 day money back guarantee. Most have found it "smoothes" out their streaming sound by removing hash which enables you to hear a little better resolution from a blacker background. Not sure if that is the same as removing the "fuzzyness and muddled-ness". Probably not quite as good as the already mentioned passive Network acoustics filters, I have't tried one of those yet, but less than half the price also. I have a Plixir LPS on my etherregen.

For sure a short run with a high end ethernet cable made (will make) a smaller difference in sq also, but that is not the best place to start (probably). 

It all matters, tackle the digital stream one notch at a time. You need to try things and see what makes a difference in your system to your ears. 

@soix

@ghdprentice

+2 …..

A upgrade to a linear power supply is a meaningful and important performance upgrade compared to a switch power supply in any case,….and significantly over the OEM throw-in crap POS wall wart supplied with the unit

The insertion of a Wi-Fi extender is a cheap no-brainer.

I was initially a hard skeptic of the audiophile network switch option too. Fortunately , I watched the following YouTube review ( first of several by Hans) , that encouraged me to finally set aside my bias, and give a SILENT ANGEL network switch a try.

In brief , yes, a further audio improvement was here with

- a blacker background,

- It introduced added lifting of an ethereal “veil” from streaming “ jitter” and “noise” ,

- along with further incremental eliminations of streaming digital “edge” / “brightness’ .

it is beyond my pay grade to explain the engineering tech reasons why ,

NOTE: As Hans points out in his reviews, the audio streaming benefits from audiophile grade network switches are very system dependent:

- they are clear and unambiguous in his “A” reference system, and progressively somewhat less as he steps down into his “B” and “C” systems.

He has several YouTube reviews of the different network switch contenders, = choose wisely

 

 

Post Script

Adding another quality build external linear power supply to the audiophile switch above to replace the cheap OEM supplied wall wort,, had a second similar streaming performance upgrade as adding a LPS to the streamer/ DAC itself.

 

Forgot to mention another thing to try would be to get a Wi-Fi extender or Mesh system....

I need to try this. I have read this a few times over the past while. 

About a year ago I removed the router from my hi fi room to eliminate unnecessary wifi waves near the components (ethernet cable connection to the streamers, not wifi), and replaced it to the upper floor of the house. But then thought I am using an iphone as a remote controller in the room anyway, and of course there are hundreds of frequencies of electromagnetic interference travelling through our rooms, components and brains continuously all the time, so unless one wanted to build a hifi room inside a faraday cage, and not use wifi controllers, I think the point is mute. 

Therefore, there should be no difference having an auxillary wifi extender, (or a sub-router essentially?) somewhat near the hifi > sotm ethernet > streamer, instead of the 50' long piece from the upstairs router into the etherregen > sotm > streamer, and comparing that. Then comparing inserting the etherregen, or Cisco switch, between extender and streamer. Hmmm. 

Any suggestions for extender models/brands? 

For extender I use a tp link AX3000, it’s 99 from Amazon. Works great, it’s in my upstairs loft and the router is in my basement. Great strong reception it has one out for Ethernet cable. Simple set up.