Benz micro glider cartridge loading advice needed.


Hello! I hope you are all doing well!

I just purchased a new phono pre amp.

I have an older Benz micro glider moving coil cart with 1.1 mv output.

The pre amp has gain of 45db (mm) up to 65bd (mc).

Load settings for moving coil are: 10, 22, 47, 100, 220,  470, 1k, 22k, 47k.

I know that I should listen for myself to determine the best setting. But can someone with more experience than myself give me a range within which to start based on having used gliders in their systems?

 

Thanks !

judsauce

If you have or had the low output version then 100-200 ohms might suffice, because it would have lower inductance than any HOMC cartridge. But the OP has a high output version.

@lewm  thanks for checking in again. This whole phase issue is confusing to me. You had mentioned that it didn't make any audible difference. I have to be honest that I have not had any experience with hearing it in my system while out of phase.. But I'm still shaking my head as to why Sonic Frontiers requires inverting it for mc carts, which is the preamp prior to my new one. Will have to say though: the SFP1 modified at parts conexion sounds fabulous. The only problem is if you want to change carts you have to take off the hood and do calisthenics to set loading values. Modified vintage is great, but give me dials on the front panel, please.😊

Best regards 

Some gain stage topologies just naturally invert phase. Some don’t. You can judge for yourself by experiment in your own system whether that makes a difference to your listening pleasure.

If you have no “phase” switch on your preamp, then just reverse the speaker wires on BOTH speakers. Thus both speakers remain in phase with each other, which is vitally important for stereo imaging.

I should have added that, for those who can hear differences in absolute phase, the optimal phase might be different for each LP, or even for different tracks on the same LP.This is why I’m grateful that with my dipolar ESLs, absolute phase makes no audible difference either to me or to others who are younger and have better hearing.

@lewm 

I should have added that, for those who can hear differences in absolute phase,

You should be so lucky.

Unfortunately I hear inverted absolute phase even in foreign systems. David Fletcher of Sumiko the same.

Sadly there are many records where instruments/vocals are out of phase relative to each other - eg you can have clean vocals with fuzzy sax or  vice versa.

Can be annoying.

ESL's are less pronounced than cone speakers.