Pop and rock music is made from electronic instruments. All your drum sounds are created by the recording and mastering engineers and have NOTHING to do with how they sound in real life. Your listening experience has always been artificial.
Jazz music is played live with acoustic instruments. Visit New Orleans and listen to the live street bands. Go to live jazz performances with acoustic instruments. THAT is what jazz music sounds like.
It's like eating Eggo waffles warmed up in a microwave oven, versus making them from scratch. Time to graduate from a diet of Pop tarts.
Why I don't hear bass drums on Jazz LPs?
I don't hear the bass drums during playback of a number of jazz LPs (Webster, Hawkins, Ellington, etc). I have Thiel 3.6 speakers powdered by Mark Levinson 23.5 amp. I can isolate the sound of bass drums on rock/pop LPs but not on jazz LPs unless drummer play solo in the middle parts.
I read somewhere this has to do with size of the bass drums used in 40s, 50s and another explanation was the way drummer play bass drums. I can clearly isolate the double bass, snare drums, and cymbals on jazz LPs, but hardly the bass drum. Let me know your experience with this issue.
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Baloney. Well recorded acoustic drums sound like drums. Period. I've spent decades as a pro musician recording, live concert mixing, and putting great microphones here and there and sometimes not putting them anywhere at all (Kenny Wolleson asked me not to mic his drums with Julian Lage and luckily the room supported it...sort of...but hey...I'm in the service of the musicians) and it generally sounds great. If it doesn't I blame somebody else or the venue. |
@bdp24 - Very interesting. thanks for sharing! |
@bdp24 Do you know what Chic Webb was using for a bass drum. It looked like a 50 , but then Chic was a very short man due to TB of the spine. All you saw was a head sitting atop the bass drum. Lindy Hop anyone? It seems there is no love for two of my many favorite drummers Tony Williams and Billy Cobham. Insane rock drummers include Tim "Herb" Alexander of Primus and Gunnar Olsen of Pucifer as well as Gavin Harrison of Porcupine Tree. The hardest hitting drummer of all time has to be Carmine Appice. |
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