Pass XP-17 and Hana ML loading question


Guys anyone here has any experience with the Pass XP-17 settings for Hana ML?

I just switched form Pass XP-15 to 17 and its totally different animal. 

Just to compare them both with the gain set at 66db and loading 333ohm they act completely different, while 15 gets maximum bottom and fantastic detail 17 sounds great at the top and the midrange but bottom needs improvement.  Would anyone run 47K ohm? 

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Also check the leads at the cartridge as Atmasphere suggested and even though you say you’re relatively happy when load R is 1K or less. So this is a real shot in the dark. Color code as follows:

red= right channel hot

green = R channel ground

white = left channel hot

blue = L channel ground

Also check that your speakers and any subwoofers are wired in phase with each other, meaning left vs right.

@lewm 

Ok I verified sound track from cartridge to the "phone stage pre-amplifier"- (I think that is correct name of it)- all good that way.

Yes they both have similar sonic characteristics, and after conversation with Pass tech support I realized that they are designed to handle most cartridges on the market, even those hard to load. In matter of the fact they are easily can overload any cartridge.

So what I understood was, just because unit can do it it does not mean that it will work with cartridge+tone arm+ connecting single post wire, exactly same way.

They are design to be versatile so it means you need to do your home work with setting it up. Sure you can go by suggestion of cartridge maker or owner manual but last decision how it sounds is ultimately owners choice. There are people who are happy with 66db at 100Ohm load, some are like me and looking for best possible performance. 

1k is good 500 ohm not bad lets see how 825 ohm sounds like and I'll get back to you.

I don’t quite understand your last post, except it seems you’ve checked the cartridge and speaker wires and the two channels are NOT out of phase. Do you understand that point?

the rest of your last post eludes my grasp. The issue I focused on is why the 47K ohm setting sounds so uniquely awful. There shouldn’t be much if any difference between 500, 825, and 1000 ohms load with your cartridge and either phono stage. Which is to say they should all sound fine and not much different from 47K ohms.

well I have no idea why they acting like that but to me it's a new endeavor with TT and cartridges and phono stages... I guess I'll keep working on it till I'm satisfied. maybe Hana ML is not the greatest match to my tonearm ? would that make such a problem. ?

Again, you’re relatively happy with load resistance other than 47K ohms, so a mismatch between cartridge and tonearm is not high on my list.