Looking for a true upgrade in sound quality


I currently stream Qobuz and Tidal through my Lumin T2. I have had this about 4 years. I have AT&T fiber optic internet to the house the ethernet cable direct to the Lumin. About 30' of cable from the router to the device. I was thinking of using the Lumin only as a streamer and adding a conceivably better DAC. Is this a legit way to go about a more resolving sound. To my ears there is a slight veil over everything and maybe a little etched overall, bass response is great. I was also hoping for a recommendation for the DAC if this is a good option. $6,000 budget new or used is fine. I have had very good luck with used equipment over the years. Thanks, Allen.

backwash

They don’t have a sound. I did add more to my statement in a later post that explained that what I was referring to was that it is pointless to try to match to specific analog gear in the sense of "my system is cold, I need more warmth" like one might do when adding tubes to a system. The pure streamer won’t do that. A DAC might.

But I will stick with the bare statement here if you would like me to. That way you can have a bigger target for your ad hominem.

You may have others who agree here, but your statements are contrary to the knowledge of a massive majority of network engineers, physicists, and other scientists, etc. But what’s critical is simply that newbies understand that there is substantial disagreement with network tweaks, and more importantly that even if some believe in their effect, the priority is well below that of any core component in the system.

When someone is shopping for their first outboard DAC (my assumption) it makes sense to suggest good DACs...not an off the shelf switch that has been put in a platinum case with a linear power supply.

And I’ll repeat - I have used many switches, routers, and network cables. So please don’t tell me I don’t listen.

Edit/PS:  I am not an ASR guy.  I do believe components can have different sounds.  But I do not apply analog logic to the digital end.  It's just different.  But moreover I disagree with those who take a simple newbie question about DACs as an opportunity to go straight to network tweaks. 

Try Roon and see how that sounds.   It includes extensive DSP capabilities to adjust your sound as needed. 

You may have others who agree here, but your statements are contrary to the knowledge of a massive majority of network engineers, physicists, and other scientists, etc.

@jji666  Classic denial.  And yeah, there are tons of people here who agree with me.  The vast, vast majority of very experienced audiophiles here have achieved significant improvements with upgraded network switches/cables and streamers because everything matters when it comes to streaming and matters a lot, so make no mistake that you are in the extreme minority here when you say they have no sound and it is critical that the newbies also understand that.  

Try Roon and see how that sounds.  

Agreed.  Roon is very good for tweaking sound because of its DSP capabilities.  However you have to have a fairly powerful server for some of the DSP, depending on what you want to do. 

Roon is also great because it allows for a thin, non-high powered endpoint (streamer) to be used such that any heavy processing is done on the server, which can be in another room, so no ambient noise and limits theoretical concerns about any electrical aspect of the streamer (if you buy into that). 

 

At Deer Creek Audio we believe Dirac Live calibration is one of the most powerful ways to gain dimension and accuracy in both the time and frequency domains.

Having performed Dirac calibrations on many high-end systems we have found than there are fundamental systems issue about 30% of the time. So we always validate the systems before proceeding.

In any case we recommend getting back to the basics and verifying the following:

  • Component Settings
  • Cabling Integrity
  • Speaker Driver Operation
  • Speaker Polarity 
  • Relative Speaker Level Settings
  • Crossover Function