Denarips and Vinshine split


Title correction* Denafrips

Alvin Chee on you tube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=iPMiniBbgK6x9_Su&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR28DZostBVrm3-lyFmRruk2D20l3ZwpO9Oj3mcNEhRnLYGa9maFLdyDAqc_aem_EjJ79wBt_x_4ZgonhrlADA&v=ksjgWvRLor0&feature=youtu.be

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So I went and searched and yes, there are few items, but nothing really to destroy a dealer. No high value items at all and prices and not that much lower.

B&H Photo used to sell both white and grey items. You see, there is no really white and grey Denafrips since local US support is very limited. It is not like you buy Canon lens US model with quick local repair. Gray or white most probably you will have to ship unit to Singapore.

Grey market is good. The only way to fight greedy monopolists like US importer of Accuphase.

@upshift - they look like slightly discounted lower end units. I wonder if they are just refurbished units. For example, I upgraded Venus to Terminator. Denafrips is going to sell my former unit somewhere right?

The point is Denafrips sells outside of the dealer network (grey market). For example, Vinshine Audio is currently trying to sell a USED Venus 12th for $3,649. New Venus 12ths are listed on AliExpress for as low as $2,543, Pontus 15th $1,653, Terminator 15th $4,509, Apollo $2,571, etc. I'm no Denafrips expert but I think those are some of their higher-end pieces and the prices seem way below what they cost from an authorized dealer. 

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sbayne

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Just go to AliExpress, search for Denafrips and you'll know instantly what "grey market" means and how it would destroy a reputable dealer.  

INDEED AliExpress has just destroyed solar panel install companies. I ended up spending just less than 10% of what had been quoted to $60,000 project that turned out to be just slightly North of $5k and with better parts/components.

It doesn't matter how reputable dealers are after all once you hit a nice deal for the same or even better quality.

Just remember dealer is just a third party leech that is able to brainwash customer. 

Those aren't Denafrips models made to Vinshine's specs being sold on AliExpress. Long ago, Denafrips decided to sell similar but different quality stuff to Musician Audio (the insides still had Denafrips stamped on some of their first run components) and Musician publicly bad mouthed Denafrips while doing it, saying they had R&D going back years when they were just a start up company exploiting Denafrips greed and the market that Vinshine helped create.

Denafrips also sells lessor quality spec'd units that look the same on AliEpxress. This is old news. Something tells me that Alvin (at Vinshine) had the screws put to him again so he's bowing out while not rocking the boat. I'm sure there's going to be another shoe or two dropping in the near future about what transpired.

All the best,
Nonoise