TONEARM DAMPING : DAMPED OR NOT ? ? USELESS ? ? WELCOMED ? ?


Dear friends: This tonearm critical subject sometimes can be controversial for say the least. Some audiophiles swear for non damped tonearms as the FR designs or SAEC or even the SME 3012 that is not very well damped in stock original status.

Some other audiophiles likes good damped tonearms.


In other thread a gentleman posted:


"  If a cartridge is properly matched to the tonearm damping is not required. " and even explained all what we know about the ideal resonance frequency range between tonearm and cartridge ( 8hz to 12hz. ). He refered to this when said: " properly matched to the tonearm ".


In that same thread that a Triplanar tonearm owner posted:


" This is the one thing about the Triplanar that I don't like. I never use the damping trough...... I imagine someone might have a use for it; I removed the troughs on my Triplanars; its nice to imagine that it sounds better for doing so. "


At the other side here it's a very well damped tonearm:


https://audiotraveler.wordpress.com/tag/townshend/


Now, after the LP is in the spining TT platter ( everything the same, including well matched cartridge/tonearm.  ) the must critical issue is what happens once the cartridge stylus tip hits/track the LP grooves modulations.

The ideal is that those groove modulations can pass to the cartridge motor with out any additional kind of developed resonances/vibrations and that the transducer makes its job mantaining the delicated and sensible signal integrity that comes in those recorded groove modulations.

 That is the ideal and could be utopic because all over the process/trip of the cartridge signal between the stylus tip ride and the output at the tonearm cable the signal suffers degradation (  resonances/vibrations/feedback ) mainly developed through all that " long trip " .


So, DAMPING IS NEED IT AT THE TONEARM/HEADSHELL SIDE OR NOT?


I'm trying to find out the " true " about and not looking if what we like it or not like it is rigth or not but what should be about and why of that " should be ".


I invite all of you analog lovers audiophiles to share your points of view in this critical analog audio subject. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT?


Thank's in advance.



Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.






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@lewm  : 55 554390 0518, please say me Hi down there. Could you?  Appreciated.

 

R.

Re the original question. Simple correct answer. Tonearm should not vibrate or flex. If it's not "perfect" - damping is appropriate. Of course there are many 'cabalistic' factors  :)  (Made you go for the dictionary :)  Naturally this thread 'could' go on forever :)  We've got endless 'retired' guys, plus bored sales 'people' or should that be 'persons?' with nothing better to do--  gotta love this 'forum' ...........

@rauliruegas great arms + headshells + carts don’t need damping! “rattling” arms, not maintained, lose/damaged bearings etc, can be band-aided by adding damping. it’s similar to speakers, not resonating by design cabinets need less damping than resonating ones. sound produced by less dampened perfect systems will be more accurate, tighter bass, much nicer piano tone reproduction! 

Dear @westcoastaudiophile : "  great arms + headshells + carts don’t need damping!  "

 

I agree with you if that happens in an LP analog perfect universe, unfortunatelly that statement is way elusivein the real world where some where we all we need to take care of damping down there.

But that's a personal choice due that that choice depends ( at least ) on two factors: what's  great for we and which one is our system MUSIC reproduction main target.  Our choice is a compromise down there according those factors I mentioned.

Almost nothing is wrong in our choice because it's way PERSONAL.

 

R.