Focal Celestee


I just received my first audiophile headphones, the Focal Celestee. I am not necessarily a HP fan, but I needed a birthday present, they were pretty highly recommended by professional & user reviews, my local audio store (even though they were OOS), they were a good price point & I thought I would enjoy them.

I first burned them in running for 24+ hours at a higher volume per Focal recommendation. I then began streaming from my system, several jazz musicians listening through my new Focal’s while A/B with my system speakers (my Rogue plays both headphones & speakers simultaneously).

My issue is the Focal’s don’t sound as good, to my ears, as playing music through my existing system or I had hoped. I understand Focal is not a leader in soundstage & while the Focal’s are more dynamic, I had hoped for a cleaner & clearer sound.

My question is if you think my issues are with the Focal’s or the built in headphone amp in my Rogue preamp and your resulting recommendations / fixes.

My system includes:

Rogue RP-1 pre with NOS Telefunkon medical, Siemens nickel plate & Brimar CV4003 NOS tubes (rolling)

LSA Warp 1 amp

KEF R11 speakers

Rythmic F12SE sub w/miniDSP equalization

Aurender N150 streaming Qobuz

Chord Qutest DAC

Pro-ject 1Xpression carbon classic with Hana ML cart

Rega Aria phono stage

A reason to think the problem may be in the Rogue is the stereophile RP-1 review. While the overall review was stellar, they stated: “… mostly average audio quality of the RP-1’s headphone output.”. But maybe not. Anyone using the RP-1 HP output?

Your thoughts and recommended actions would be appreciated. Thank you.

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@soix 

Thank you for your recommendation. The Hifiman Arya is a great recommendation with great reviews. However my preference is to not buy Chinese products. I bought my Chord DAC vs a Denafrips for that reason, even though the latter may have been superior. Thanks!

I think you’ll be much happier with the Clears and look forward to your thoughts. I was going to recommend the Singxer SA1 amp that I drive my Arya Stealths with as I think it would deliver the sound characteristics you’re looking for without breaking the bank, but alas it is a ChiFi product as are many HP amps these days. So I’ll add these links more for fyi — one is a review that I think is spot on in terms of assessing the amp’s sonic characteristics and the other is a link where you can buy with a no risk, 30-day return policy (I did this and didn’t return it).
https://soundnews.net/amplifiers/headphone-amps/singxer-sa-1-class-a-headphone-amplifier-review/

https://www.amazon.com/Singxer-Balanced-Discrete-Single-Ended-Amplifier/dp/B08QMDM631

If the Singxer is a no go I’d look at the Burson Soloist 3X (also reviewed on the Soundnews.net site) as I don’t believe it’s made in China although it’s more expensive. Schiit may also be good but I’d read reviews to see if their models offer the sound characteristics you’re looking for. Hope this helps.

@soix 

Thank you for your thoughts and recommendations. Just processed the return of the Celestee’s and the order for the Clear’s. The Clear’s are on back order, but they assured me they will have them in August. I am sure I will enjoy them. Will let you know.  Thanks!

Personally, I use the open back Focal Elears with an Auralic Taurus Mk II headphone amp. Works for me.

@tony1954 

Thanks, the Elears were a predecessor to the Clears and have, per reviewers a very similar sound signature.
The Auralic is a very well regarded HP amp, albeit discontinued, but available on the used market at an attractive price point. Question: does it have a remote? Thanks